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    Posted: 17 May 2011 at 8:14pm
I really feel for those dealing with this, I hope none of our forum are in harms way!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2011 at 8:21pm
dear oh dear....I just figured out what those brown beasts are !!!
 
I gotta ask ,WHY weren't the 'bybass gates' or whatever you call them opened up WEEKS before the Biblical flood came down the river ???
And should we be investing in mosquito spray companies ? That's one heckuva lot of standing water ....
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I really feel for those poor deer, too.  However, as far as those gates go at the Merganza spillway that they opened, there is no water on either side of them when the river is at normal levels.  Only during severe flooding is there even water on the upper side.  I saw a man from the corps of engineers say that if they hadn't opened those gates, the water would have eventually gone over anyway.
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I saw this US map photo and it really put things in perspective. The Mississippi
is the drainage basin for 41% of the US. Almost unbelievable.
 
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That really brings it all into perspective. It affects everything. Sometimes I wonder if mankind is smart or a liability to earth. Ryan
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In the last few days I've crossed both the South and North Platte Rivers in Colorado and Wyoming.  They are both about as full as I've ever seen them this early in the year.  There is going to be a lot of water coming down the Missouri river in the next few weeks.
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And the snow hasn't even begun to melt in the Rockies... At least some of it will be going down the other side...
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Yes you don't hear any stories about the animals that have been left behind, but I'm sure a lot have perished. Very sad.
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That map is a little bit incorrect. I know 2 spots in the Dakotas that don't drain out to anywhere. They are around Devils Lake ND and Waubay SD. Take a look at Google Earth in eastern SD. Most images are from 2004. This spring things are 30% worse.
 
I feel for the flooded people but eventually their water will recede. Ours here just keeps getting deeper with no where to go.
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Nathan- some places out where you are can only drain straight up...  you can actually see the curvature of the earth while standing atop my truck...  it's so flat that construction projects require a 30' long level incremented in thousanths of an inch per foot, in order to determine if  things really ARE correct.  It's so flat that you have to turn off your high-beams 34 minutes before oncoming traffic arrives.  Buddy of mine from up there said it's so flat that when the sunlight angle is 'right', you can stand on the moon and see your reflection in the surface of the Dakotas.

I'm not so worried about the deer... they've found a high enough spot to ride it out... but farm animals in confinement are much worse off.  Hogs and cattle that can't be moved to high ground typically perish, and the only thing worse than cleaning up a muddy flood... is cleaning up rotting carcasses of your annihilated herd.  No amount of insurance or subsidy replaces the thousands of hard-work hours it takes to build the living portion of a formidable livestock operation...  but the stark reality, is that a floodplain is a floodplain- it's not a matter of if... it's a matter of when.

To understand what the floodgates are really about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morganza_Spillway

Basically, Morgan City is in a swamp which has been encircled and protected from flooding by a system of huge levees... when the river's floodwaters get so high... they'll eventually breach the levees and overtake the swamp, and homes in the basin very rapidly.  The floodgates allow water to be diverted into the basin selectively, but it only holds so much... and land and homes therein will be submerged.  If they DIDN'T open the gates, the levees will fail, destroying everything.  If they open the gates, it floods, and at least gives warning time for evacuation, and the opportunity to do a little damage control.

EVERY levee presents this problem- you can push back mother nature a little bit, for a little while, but you can't do it forever... and when she pushes back, either you give up a little and let her win, or she takes it all.   the OTHER way to contend with flooding, is to go without levees, and remain vigilant on dealing with floodwater... being aware of it, being prepared for it, and not getting accustomed to being under the eternal protection of something that will eventually fail under the worst conditions.

The people who suffer worst, are the people who move into a neighborhood that is naturally a flood-prone environment, believing that the presence of a levee removes that risk.  Anyone who coerces or convinces them that there is no risk, is beyond evil.



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