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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jhid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2011 at 11:01pm
It's sad that the art of driving straight is dieing Its been a while since I've seen straight rows planted without using a gps
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I'd challenge anyone to make a straight row in my rocky fields with a 2 row corn planter!
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Originally posted by junkman junkman wrote:

My  neighbor back during the depression years stated that her and here siblings would go to the corn field equipped only with hoe's. now that would be a job most of us are glad is over.
 
Guess I'm still in the depression era....spend many evenings out in my sweet corn patch cleaning out what the cultivator misses....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SHAMELESS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2011 at 12:59am
kinda silly to put straight rows in a crooked field! lol...i use the marker on my 8-row, but don't use any markers on my 6 row!
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My Dad was never  known for his straight rows, his reason was he said he was watching a bird on the fence at the other end of the field and the bird must have kept moving. He also said you can get more corn in a crooked row.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC WD45 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2011 at 10:32pm
My 17yr old girlfriend can make straighter rows with her dad's 65 JD 4020D narrow front and 6 row than the neighbor can make with his 2009 9430 JD Greenstar'd 4x4 and 42 row. He always comes over and BS'es her about how he's going to sue cause she makes his 50+ years experience and $500,000 set up look bad, and then BS'es me because she's two weeks older than me LOL. Nice fella though, would do anything to help out without expecting anything in return.
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Originally posted by abbaschild95 abbaschild95 wrote:

Originally posted by GBACBFan GBACBFan wrote:

A check row planted cornfield is a beautiful thing.
 
 
How in the world did they do that in such a large field???
I dont know about allis chalmers, but john deere made planters which accomplished this by use of a check wire, if you will  notice the corn is coming up three plants to the hill, this was a common practice back in the day,
i have hard cover resources that where recomending this practice even as late as the mid 1950's 
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Driving straight had absolutely nothing to do with it-   Yep- a check-row planting system consisted of guide-wires stretched across the field.  The wire not only made a straight line, it had beads affixed at regular intervals, where the planter 'hit' the beads, the planter dropped a seed.  Took guys at each end of the field setting stakes, measuring distances, and stretching the wire.

Remember that the whole idea here, was to allow cross-cultivation-  you ran down the rows one way, then across the other rows the other way.  Running a mounted cultivator, you had three different angles which to cultivate through and rip out pesky weeds from your fields... and when done right, it'd leave one really pretty lookin' field.

The unfortunate reality to check-row planting (and cross-cultivation) was that the space between knots meant that there was substantially less seed going down in the field, hence, fewer plants, and with fewer plants, more light reaching the ground, hence, more area available for weeds to get sunlight and thrive.

Next... running cultivators, though effective at tearing out weeds, means the soil is always broken, and highly subject to erosion... it also means burning more fuel in a given field.

Finally, it took lots of time (in comparison) to set up that wire and get it straight... and if you're working a field that's far from flat... well... you're gonna have fun with that wire.

So higher yields, basic horticulture, conservationism, and economics have made check-row obsolete... but it is quite a sight to see, and farmers still comment, perhaps even brag on how 'straight' rows are.  Today's planting methods don't require 'straight' rows... they just need to be put down in a way that fills the field and can be harvested by modern machinery.

There's a small point of conservation that DID show in check-row planting... today's techniques put an incredible amount of plants in the field... our back field runs 220bu/acre corn yield on an average year... if it was check-row planted, it'd be lucky to be 75bu/acre, simply because it'd have only a fraction of plants per acre.  The quantity of plants per acre being lower, a check-row field would promote better soil recovery, with the only exception being that mechanical cultivation exposes the soil to erosion losses.



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The evolution of agricultural practice and technology can be incredibly fascinating.

While my mother spent her after-school hours running a mounted cultivator on a WC, My grandfather never check-row planted, on account that his riverbottom fields would go from flooded to planted in an extremely short timeframe, and the hillsides simply wouldn't make a wire sit straight enough.  He WAS known for planting to a high enough density that once the corn was too tall to drive through, weeds didn't get enough light to grow and choke out the corn.  He was also known for making Mom and her sisters run the cultivator through the weedy areas  on a pretty rigorout schedule... I heard stories about Mom wanting to go on dates and school functions, and blasting back up the lane to the house with hardware and cultivator parts literally falling off the toolbar... (but she swears that's not true)  ;-)

Even then, the 'performance' of check-row was obviously questionable... not using the technique, Grandpa still managed to bag yield-performance awards year after year.  He was a Funks-G dealer for much of it... and had two closets full of trophies... when he passed away, the trophies were handed out to every grandchild... and I have mine on display here!!!



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC WD45 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2011 at 10:32am
The 4020 4440 are the only Deere's they have. They also have the first D17 I've ever driven and the only D21 I've driven/second one I've seen in person I plowed 155 acres with it so far this year,and I will probably add close to another 200 to that not includeing discing before winter wheat (we have to disc before we no-till because we have clay that gets as hard as cement)  before everythings done. with a dual on the left side, you couldn't pick a better tractor to handle a 7 bottom plow. It's been in their family since it was new.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote R.W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2011 at 11:10am
I got a book with a picture of an unstyled wc cultivating check-rows. Tryed to put the picture up before but it got really fuzzy when I scaned it to the puter so it was kinda point less.
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