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D14 dual hydraulic setup???
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    Posted: 11 May 2011 at 9:52pm
Hey guys,
I was wondering if it would be possible to convert my d14 hydraulics so that I have separate front and rear hydraulics? It is really a pain when I have the front end loader and the brush hog on trying to use one or the other. What is the cheapest/easiest method to convert it?

Also, is it possible to run a front end loader setup with dual hydraulics so that I could have an adjustable bucket???

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The cheapest method would be to put a hand shut-off valve on your loader and your bush hog and only open the one you want to use and close the other to hold the implement at a height that doesn't bother you.
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Actually Doc, the cheapest method is to plug the loader into the rear outlet, when not in use, unplug, after inserting a couple pieces of angle iron on the cylinders in the up position! 
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I've got both methods ! One D-14 has the control valve setup, the other D-14 has the 'quick coupler' method.
Which is better? Depends on how often you need to change the setup.
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

I've got both methods ! One D-14 has the control valve setup, the other D-14 has the 'quick coupler' method.
Which is better? Depends on how often you need to change the setup.
Would you be able to post some pictures of your setup please?  I'm interested in doing this to my D14 and would really appreciate some pictures.  Thanks.
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I stand corrected....the second cheapest method.
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If you are wanting both at same time use Dr. Allis set up. That way you can use one at a time by changing the lever.   MACK
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There is another option - not too quick or cheap, but it works nicely. My D14 has a front-mounted hydraulic pump that drives the FEL, leaving the tractor's internal pump available for other work.
Not sure I am clear on what you mean by "dual hydraulics...so I can adjust the bucket" but I'm guessing that you are talking about two-way hydraulic cylinders. Yes, you can - you just need the cylinders and the control....and to be careful about matching the cylinder pressure/flow rate to that of the hydraulic pump. One advantage of the front-mounted pump is that you can get away from the AC hydraulic pump pressure/flow rate configuration which may be hard to match in two-way cylinders.
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Does anyone have any pics of their setup and/or part numbers.  I do motorcycle/auto mechanics... but I am not well versed in farm machinery/implements.  I have no understanding of hydraulics/and valves so any diagrams, pics, and part numbers would be great.  
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What is the "FEL"?
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Originally posted by coletrain777 coletrain777 wrote:

What is the "FEL"?
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FEL = Front end loader... DUH!

So would the front mounted pump be belt driven off the front of the engine?  If so, then do you just fabricate the mounts for it?
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