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Charles (KY) ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky Points: 132 |
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Tracy wasn't the Reeves the 2 cylinder that sold for around $150,000? |
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acwdwcman ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Location: palmyra, il Points: 1075 |
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when exactly did it sell and who bought it?
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wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow
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Charles (KY) ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky Points: 132 |
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I think that sale was at least 2 or 3 years ago. The owner had died and his widow was selling most of the engines, threshers and plows. He had several traction engines and stationary engines. I don't remember who bought it but I remember he wasn't from here. A lot of the people at the sale were from out of town. The big engine had just been inspected and was still being put back together. I went to buy a plow for our engine. Couldn't touch the price though. Beautiful engine though.
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Tracy Martin TN ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10670 |
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Pretty sure it is a Reeves. As of last Saturday it was still there.It was not sold at the auction sale 3 or 4 years ago. The engine is valued at 225 thousand or better. Probably one of the best in this country. There was a 12 or 15 bottom plow at the sale he pulled with that engine. Previous owner farmed with these engines. Died in his sleep. HTH Tracy Martin
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morton(pa) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lancaster, PA Points: 1234 |
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I've been trying to get into Rough and Tumbles steam school for the past couple of years. It fills up quick!!! Haven't got a chance yet but I'd love to run a Peerless, Baker, or Geiser (spelling?) some day.
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JimIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1981 |
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I have operated a few at our local show, but only for a few minutes here and there. Im not licensed and have a lot to learn to do so. I always try to get time to steer one once in a while. Have asisted on two Advance Rumelys, a 23-90 Baker Uni-Flo, and a Port Huron. Would love to have more time with them but there never seems to be a shortage of licensed operators at the show, so I assist in other work there.
Steam engines are my first love in tractors, but dont have the $$$ to own one. Heres a few videos ive done. [TUBE]ztEewU7eADo[/TUBE] [TUBE]oicpqo3Gd9Y[/TUBE] I have a few videos from our local show that I need to upload. Jim Edited by JimIA - 01 May 2011 at 11:20pm |
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Don M SEIA ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Danville, Iowa Points: 119 |
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Good pictures and video. Old Threshers will feature AC in 2012 , any year that year, would like see alot of impelments and stuff.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |
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Last I knew Mt. Pleasant had a steam school too. Always thought it might be interesting to go just to learn. Proper steam engine operation is a dying art.
I have two toy engines. One is a Mamod that you have to actually have a fire under it's boiler. The other one is a very old toy that has an electric heater in it's boiler. Seems like it's a Jensen brand.
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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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Don M SEIA ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Danville, Iowa Points: 119 |
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They had their steam school last weekend. They are talking about adding more capacity, because it fills up fast. I also have an electric Jensen.
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Don M SEIA ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Danville, Iowa Points: 119 |
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call 319-385-8937 for the 2012 school. If you go the Events tab on the Old Threshers web site.http://www.oldthreshers.org there is a listing of steam school to go to. Do you come to Old Threshers ? Don
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acwdwcman ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Location: palmyra, il Points: 1075 |
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i will be going to old threshers next year i cant make it this year. it would be nice to take a tractor next year for the a-c feature. what kind of steam engines are they featuring.
At some local show there is some steam not alot though, in jacksonville illinois there is a show there and there is a undermount avery, huber ?size?, advance, a homemade road locomotive, and some others but i like the avery.
at jerseyville they have 2 canaidian reeves, 80hp case, (the ones i posted pictures of earlier) reeves high wheeler, used to have a keck-gonnerman, and a small scale advance.
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wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow
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Bill Long ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Late in the summer season the Maryland Steam Historical Society has a Steam Show at Arcadia, MD. The Almish came from Lancaster County to run the engines. There were steam powered saw mills and other applications. I went to it around 1958 and remember seeing a huge array of steam power. All running very well.
I understand that this show still is in operation. In fact, Fred attended it last year.
They have a Web Site. Look it up at Google under Arcadia Steam.
They have a show Sept 15 - 18.
Enjoy!
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824 |
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WOW!! That there is some heavy metal Dave. That would be sompin to see for sure. |
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824 |
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And how big a boiler does it take to make it turn that flywheel at speed?
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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MARK W (NY) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: E.Concord NY Points: 279 |
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http://youtu.be/Ecww1AmE3Ow This is a link to the allis coreliss engine at the pageant of Steam in Canandagiua NY . This used to power, I believe Macinac island in MI.if i remember correctly. They got it running in 2004 for the gathering of the orange.
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Dennis IL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 7839 |
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I don't want to get too far off subject here but Did anybody happen to see on modern marvles or could have been History channel last night the show STEAM! they went to Jay Leno's place and showed his steam cars as well as his stationary steam engines including a corliss! NO JOKE! he has one A BIG ONE!
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Don M SEIA ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Danville, Iowa Points: 119 |
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If this works it is a utube of the AC 750hp Steam water pump, called Marshall ,because it used pump water for the city of Marshalltown, Iowa.http://youtu.be/u41sah-rRO8
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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Most shows that have big Corliss engines don't put a load on them and don't run them at rated speed so they don't take so much boiler. At least at Mt. Pleasant,IA, Rollag,MN, and Waukee, IA that's the case. And running slow with no load they can set the valves for a short burst of steam each stroke and get full expansion.
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Pat the Plumber CIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Springfield,Il Points: 4844 |
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I go to Mt.Pleasant every couple of years.Great show,demonstrations,museums,Trains,Tractors,Steam Engines,Little bit of everything.Great place to spend a day.Glad to hear A/C will be featured tractor for 2012. Finally be able to see a D-17 there.Always had a 57 cut off for some reason.Plenty of orange there usually though.
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
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Don M SEIA ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Danville, Iowa Points: 119 |
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Are any of you on facebook, I put some steam engine pictures on it. Don Mathews Danville, IA
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Brian Jasper co. Ia ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |
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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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Don M SEIA ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Danville, Iowa Points: 119 |
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I live 15 miles from it. I'm there everyday, and pullout and putback days. Same for my wife. |
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Don M SEIA ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Danville, Iowa Points: 119 |
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Brian , I'm pretty sure mine is reversible, it's been a while since I've had it steamed up. I remember take it to school to demonstrate.
If you or anybody gets to Old Threshers , give me a call 319-572-0914, I help with the steam and tractor threshing at 10 &3 each day, west of the tractor area.
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roughstock ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Points: 690 |
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This is the biggest steam traction engine I have ever seen. It's an Avery shown at the Buckley Old Engine show in Buckley, MI.
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acwdwcman ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Location: palmyra, il Points: 1075 |
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the biggest ive ever seen was a 110 hp case at a show in pickneville illinois
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wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow
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JR Maley ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Points: 99 |
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Heres mine Edited by JR Maley - 10 May 2011 at 12:54pm |
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Brad Kelley ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Points: 13 |
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Here is my 1903 J.I. Case traction engine. It is the smallest size traction engine produced by Case and weighs about 10,000 lbs dry. It was advertised by Case as a "9 HP" tractor, however at that time they literally rated their tractors as doing the work of X many horses. The engine proper actually develops about 30 brake HP at 250 RPM and at full boiler pressure (125 PSI) and after about 1910 the factories started rating the tractors by brake HP or by drawbar HP. We are allowed to run at a max of 100 PSI due to Virginia law and the design of our boiler (riveted lap seam barrel), but the condition of the boiler is good enough to safely operate at the original 125 PSI.
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I also have an 18-50 HP return flue Huber that is awaiting restoration. It weighs about 20,000 lbs dry. I had to buy a D19D to be able to move that engine around my yard because my D14 just didn't have the weight.
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25 HP Advance Rumely
10 HP Gaar-Scott
40-120 HP Geiser Peerless
36-120 HP Rumely
28 HP Sawyer-Massey
110 HP Best
50 HP Case
18 HP Avery
40-120 HP Avery
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Brad Kelley ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Points: 13 |
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For those interested in the huge Corliss engines; the Field Day of the Past show in Richmond, VA powers their sawmill with their Corliss engine. I have a short video of the valve motion on that engine, but unfortunately it doesn't show the whole setup. You can hear the saw in the log and see the engine's governor open up the valves to admit more steam. They power the engine with a large trailer mounted industrial package boiler.
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JohnCO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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Jay is always joking about having a BIG ONE but I didn't realize it was a steam engine! |
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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There's a Corliss engine inside at the Sakamia Co Washington Historical Society Museum at Stevenson Washington.
I saw it a couple days ago. They run it with an electric motor on occasion, but they do have a boiler next to it. Gerald J. |
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