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R.W 
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 Topic: Did AC ever make demonstrator models?
Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 3:09pm |
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IH and farmall did but did AC ever do anything to tell them apart?
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In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 3:17pm |
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My father swore that our 59 D-17 Ser I was a demonstator model.My grandfather bought it from a dealer who had hauled it around with a 4 bottom plow.He bought the plow also on the condition he was buying that tractor.Dealer said he was getting another soon so he made a deal.that D-17 was a puller.It was geared lower than our other D-17's.Top speed was 14 MPH others went 17,same tires and RPMs
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Max(ia)
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Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 4:41pm |
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My brother-in-law has a D17 III that my D15IIwill run rings around in Hi 4th.
He could hardly keep up on a Tractor Ride, in the slow group, which was running about 12mph. Any suggestions what the problem might be? Not trying to high-jack the post, but Pat's comment brought it to mind.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 4:57pm |
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Back in the 60's the neighbor took me to an Ag show in Atkinson,Il. There was a D21 in a tent that had a cab with carpeting, air conditioning and color TV with a closed circuit TV to look at the implement. I don't think people believed most of this would come to standard equipment.
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monitordoc
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Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 5:30pm |
Dad's first d-17 was a demo. Dealer got it in 1957 and hauled it around that fall plowing, dad bought it that winter. there were things different than our later 17's but the only thing I remember is no power steering.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 7:10pm |
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In construction they mad test machines i had looked at a machine at dealer that was a HD7G-B but Srl # was X4 . Somehow it was sold onto market , talking to shop forman, they had just repaired it and had waited 8 months for some parts as they were not standard parts to the regular machine and had to be special made at factory.
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Bill Long
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Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 7:24pm |
I believe you are referring to the "white" and "Gold" IH tractors that were factory made demonstraters. I did not know of any John Deere specific demonstrators when I was selling them.
Allis Chalmers did not make specific demonstrator tractors. However, dealers would take one out of stock and use it as a demonstrater it for a summer or two then sell it.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 8:40pm |
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Neighbor had a 7045 that was a demonstartor. He said that tractor was just unreal it is still going - the only non Deere on a good size dairy. On my off farm job we had a factory demonstrator railcar mover that was twice the machine as the production model, the company come up with alot excuses why we couldn't keep the demo unit. Friend of mine's distant relatives sold Case and their was stories of things being "tweaked".
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Eric[IL]
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Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 11:43pm |
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I have a AC 2000 6-18 plow that was a demonstration model at the 1984 Fisher, IL Farm Progress Show.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 27 Mar 2011 at 7:06am |
 Max(ia) wrote:
My brother-in-law has a D17 III that my D15IIwill run rings around in Hi 4th.
He could hardly keep up on a Tractor Ride, in the slow group, which was running about 12mph. Any suggestions what the problem might be? Not trying to high-jack the post, but Pat's comment brought it to mind.
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Sounds like my 58 D17D. My GPS showed 14 was all it would go.
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Posted: 27 Mar 2011 at 10:40am |
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While building special tractors for demo or show purposes was pretty rare, the company would often offer discounts on tractors that dealers would use for demonstrators.
The trick was always to get a tractor onto a farmer's land and have him run it for a while. A lot of dealers weren't always willing to do that because of cost to them and the effort from them to do it (one of the reasons Allis is no more).
Tractors and machinery used at things like the Farm Progress Show would then be discounted to a dealer.
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Dave in il
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Posted: 27 Mar 2011 at 5:03pm |
I can remember our dealer coming out with a new 190 XT and 5 bottom plow and having Dad plow a few rounds, he had already stopped at a neighbors on the way, and others on the way back. You could get a great deal if you bought the demo tractor with a few hours on it.
We had neighbors with green and red tractors who would swear that Allis was "turned up" because the salesman would pull in the furrow behind them and catch up before they would get to the far end. LOL
We had bought a new 65 190XT that was traded for a new 71 190XT Series III. I think that was when the dealer was out with the demo, although we got the new tractor in the summer.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 27 Mar 2011 at 5:27pm |
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D15 series 2 goes 16.8 MPH in high 4th at full throttle and a D17 only goes 15.0 MPH at full throttle in high 4th.....that's the way it's always been.
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