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7000 black belly stuck in 4th |
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Hurst ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213 |
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Dad called me this morning at school to tell me that my tractor is stuck in 4th gear and the shifter is near neutral but stuck where it won't rotate. He took the floor plate off and tried to work the barrels in the shift cover, but it's still stuck. I've had it hang up on me like this a little, but it would usually pop out after fiddling with the shifter. Is this a cable problem? He said it was running fine before and shifting great. I'm thinking it may be something in the shift tower like 2 forks engaged at the same time. I'm 10 hours away, so I'm trying to relay information to him via phone, but is hard without being there to see what exactly might be causing this so I was hoping you all may be able to help me point him in the right direction.
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Hurst ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213 |
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Update, the tractor is still stuck in 4th gear. He started it back up and tried driving it short distances to get it out of gear, but the shifter is about in the neutral position still, but not quite far enough that it is free to turn. I told him tomorrow to try and unhook the cables from the shift tower and see if the lever moves then. I figured if the shifter goes through the motions fine with the cables unhooked, it is probably something jammed up in the shifter tower, otherwise, it is something broken on the cable end. If anyone has seen this before or something similar and can give me some good advice to pass on, it'd be much appreciated.
Hurst
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Dans 7080 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Points: 1146 |
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I have a 7060 and it wouldnt shift into park. I pulled the floor pan and there was a rock stuck under the "bell" not letting it move. Might be something to look at.
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Hurst ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213 |
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Yeah, he has the floor pan out and I think he's going to send me some pictures of it tomorrow so I can see what exactly he's looking at. I've seen the shifter tower before, but haven't worked on it, so it's been hard for me to visualize what he's seeing as he's trying to get the thing to pop out of 4th gear. I've had it do something like this to me once before, but it just took a good tug on the T handle lever and all went back into place... I'm wondering if 2 forks are hung up or something like that?
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21050 |
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All the cable does is the twist feature.....all solid linkage forwards and backwards......sure there isn't something broken linkage wise?? I remember a ball socket used on part of the linkage that was bolted to the underside of the cab floor.
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Hurst ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213 |
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Dr, I'll be sure to pass that information on. He was thinking both of the linkages motions were transferred by cables. I'm hoping it's just a simple broken linkage and nothing serious, as he doesn't want to have to take the shift tower off while I'm gone at school. If it is doing what I think it is doing, the shifter has kind of "slipped" out of 4th gear, but the transmission is still in 4th gear, and now the shifter is pretty much just jammed up. I'll be sure to post an update on here when I find something else out new.
Thanks! Hurst
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2876 |
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When our 7000 burgandy belly was stuck in gear we had a broken off shift fork and the broken off peice was stuck somewhere. Do you know anyone with small hands. All I will say is it's not a good feeling when your hand doesn't come back out again. Tractor doesn't shift right to this day.
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Hurst ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213 |
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Current Update: I had him take off all the linkages from the shifter rod (the thing going into the shift cover that slides in and out and rotates to actuate the different forks) and try to turn it with a big adjustable wrench on it, making as sure as he could it was in the center detent (the 3-4 selection) position. That did nothing and it is locked tight, as in it won't rotate or slide in or out. He has all the bolts out of the shifter cover and last I checked was still trying to get it to pull off, but it looks like it has been taken apart before and someone used blue silicone on it, so now it is stuck pretty tight. The plan is to get the shift cover off and inspect all the forks, manually realign them into the neutral position, align the shift rod so that the actuater in the shift cover is also in the neutral position and then go through the adjustment procedure for the cable and linkages that go to the T-handle shifter. This is all assuming I don't have something like a broken shifter fork or worse inside the transmission.
Any tips/advice or things to look out for would be a huge help at this point and I will relay it on to him. Also, were there any updates for this kind of problem? I remember seeing something about grinding a slight chambfer on the gears to help with shifting in the bulliten about the updated transmission brake and other improvements for shiftability, but I'm not sure I feel comfortable grinding away the collar teeth of my tractor's gears... Hurst |
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