8000 Series Deutz-Allis Discounts!!!

Here's a pretty good indication of how bad things were in the mid-80's for farm equipment sales for some of us younger guys that don't really remember it.  Some of the girls at work were filing old documents away last week and ran across this for me.  It's the purchase order from when dad bought his 8030 in 1986.  Dad said he wanted one of the 8000 series tractors when they first came out, but with the economy and interest rates where they were he was uncertain about dealing on one at the time and figured he better just stay with his 7020.  By 1986, he said they were practically giving them away, so he waited till the harvest was all in the bin and then made the deal.

 

 

 

 

The special Deutz-Allis discounts come to nearly 55% off the original list price of the tractor.

 

 

25 years later we still have this 8030 thanks in part to those Deutz-Allis discounts, allthough those Deutz-Allis decals and KHD grille emblem came off right after the warranty date was up.  One customer at work told me there was a lot of hair dryers running that year removing those Deutz-Allis decals...lol.

 

I have read about the same time you could but to 94 series Case tractors for the price of one.  I guess they were in the process of going red.

What amazed me the most is while they discounted the 8030 like crazy, they still offered a pretty fair trade on the 7020 at 6 years old.  We used to ocasionaly do business with Masner, good group of guys, but that was a long time ago.

Inflation was good for Agriculture at first, Dad traded the 1965 XT for a new 1971 and they gave him more trade in allowance than he paid for it. In 1973 my Dad wanted a new 7040 but couldn't get one. The farm economy was so good that there wasn't enough tractors and equipment to meet demand. He had his name on a list at the local Deere dealer and the AC dealer and the Ford dealer, the Ford dealer called and said someone had backed out on an 8600 so he bought it.

My dad and uncle started back in the new machinery in November of 85 as the AC DA transition.  Dad still talks about 50% + discounts on Gleaner combines when they were cleaning up conventionals from 86-88. 

wish a guy could trade for a new tractor now days for $10,000 bucks

Around here you couldnt give anything AC away.  You could sell Case, they would rent them down until they were cheap enough and sell em.  AC didnt have a rent program then, just  lease program.  Course you could alway sell a few Deere, some guys wouldnt have nuthin else,  the IHs were discounting heavily too.  I had a red dealer north of me who would call up and get a price from me so he could get the additional discount from Harvester, he would do the same for me.  There were year end deals where 50% discounts werent uncommon.  If you had a prospect you had to call in to the branch and ask for a discount, might only got 20-30%, depended on who you were!!!!      For a dealer in was a terrible time, to much inventory, to much interest, not enough customers to go around, could flow enough cash to keep it going. 

skipwelte wrote: Around here you couldnt give anything AC away.  You could sell Case, they would rent them down until they were cheap enough and sell em.  AC didnt have a rent program then, just  lease program.  Course you could alway sell a few Deere, some guys wouldnt have nuthin else,  the IHs were discounting heavily too.  I had a red dealer north of me who would call up and get a price from me so he could get the additional discount from Harvester, he would do the same for me.  There were year end deals where 50% discounts werent uncommon.  If you had a prospect you had to call in to the branch and ask for a discount, might only got 20-30%, depended on who you were!!!!      For a dealer in was a terrible time, to much inventory, to much interest, not enough customers to go around, could flow enough cash to keep it going.

On top of the above, any used machinery that a dealer had previously traded-in lost a lot of value when the price of new stuff dropped.  A tractor that a dealer had $15,000 in became a $7500 tractor real fast.

Yeah I remember some 6000 series tractors  on dealers lots sitting there 3 years , the paint even started to fade on them ; Allis had some of its best tractors at the worst time in AG ever

It is too bad that the hard times that made that deal possible also put AC out on the street and led to their demise.

I remember stopping at the Massey dealer for a mower part and asking about a 1085 with a cab, brand new, had been on the lot over a year.  $10,000.  Really thought about it but interest was so high and I had just paid off my used '63 chevy C80 diesel truck @ 16% interest, was scared to get in debt again.  A few years later 1085's were still selling for $10,000 with 4,000 hours on them.  (The Massey dealer was only 15 miles away, the Allis dealer nearly 50.)

My Dad bought a new old stock L3 in winter 1988. It was a 1986 model, he paid $70 cash for it with his choice of windrow pickup, and made them throw in a 24 foot header. They were not happy at the dealer, but he said they were pretty happy ten years before that. Times change.

i paid $20,000 for my 7010 new in 1980, no trade in. $5000. in interest, 5 year loan. $5000. per year.