G cultivator school?

Edited by contrary_farmer - 15 Dec 2010 at 1:13pm

Bill Long wrote: You have seen a mixture of cultivators that were made for the G.  The G was probably the most cultivatable (?) tractor made.  Even when it was introduced in 1948 we were shown the basic one row corn cultivator with several types of shovels from the wooden pin trip, the spring trip, and the spring tooth.  The single tool bar to which a myrid of disks and shanks could be attached to set up whatever cultivator or bed maker was wanted.  The double tool bar cultivator frame to which an multitude of shanks and teeth could be attached.  Then came the independ gang cultivators up to six rows of very close cultivation.  Some are shown above.  To this was added the ingunity of the customers or dealers to make cultivator attachments for very specific types of operation.  For example we used a single tool bar with two disks to make up beds with the inverted V to give them a slight crown on the rear furrowing bar.  The purchaser improved on our invention to make it even more efficient. We used to say to customers show us what you want to cultivate.  We will find or make a clutivator to do an efficient job. Hope this is some help.  I have Pop's 1960 price book which may be of some help since even though the G was not made at the time special runs of specific cultivators were always available when there was enough demand. Good Luck! Bill long

To those of you who want more information concerning cultivators for the G purchase a G implement manual.  It shows all the Allis Chalmers implements for the G, including the cultivators described in this post, plows, #4 mower, and planters.  In fact, I went on e-bay last night and found a CD showing G manual and implement manual.  Twenty Three dollars plus shipping.  If you are that interested I would highly recommend it.  Covers almost anything. 

contrary_farmer wrote: Italy Hill Produce wrote: I'd love to find one (or two) of those dual allis tool bars!   The problem with the Allis 60" dual toolbar it's about impossible to find clamps that fit it as well as the shanks the fit the clamps and everything else that fits them.  One suggestion is do what singingpig did and make a 2" square toolbar so off the shelf cultivator parts can be attached.

Nice photos.  I think that my toolbar made of flat stock is an Allis.  I had never seen another one untill someone here posted a great video introducing the G to the world.  I got lucky and found those C-shanks with mounts that fit the toolbar.  That is the problem with cobbling together cultivators is finding the mounts that will mate the tools you found to the toolbar you own  lol.

Italy Hill Produce wrote: LOL he isn't buying a G, He is getting one as a present from his favorite (read:only) son in law. I believe he/his crew has always wanted one. I wouldn't take the comment about drip irrigation as "because I don't know how to farm" He was probably just poking. I love going to OR and hearing about the "lessons" learned via trying new/different things. He is not a fan of high tunnels, but doesn't mock us for wanting one here in NY etc. Jonathan http://www.huntwines.com/Italy-Hill-Produce www.huntwines.com

You are a good SIL. I have been using high tunnels for 20 years.  They are very profitable.  Google Groundworks.  They are a farm in Junction City, Or who went from maybe $50k sales the 1st year to several milllion in just 7 years by using high tunnels...they have several acres of them.. Dennison Farms...one of the pioneers for high tunnels in the Valley....just made a huge addition...I've been told he has 20+ acres of high tunnels now.  It is very telling about Anthony's character that he would pooh-pooh my addition of a G, and turn it into a symptom bad farming on my part...the whole while he wants one himself.  lol  There are plenty of them available out here, and a couple of shops putting electric and diesel motors in them...why didn't he just buy one if he wanted one?  It is quite stylish out here to put an electric motor in one and then use solar power to charge it.  I have a 23hp Kubota diesel in mine.

Did what I said about how to size the toolbar make sense?  You need to look at how the ground is layed out and size the toolbar to fit the farm.  It is amazing how many tools the G will push when you are in Granny gear. Like I said, I used to use one that had 8 rows of Planet Jrs, so that is 16 knives pushing through the dirt.  We seeded with an 8 row Planet Jr belly mounted to a Farmall Cub....the Cub had 33gal tanks fender mounted they used to use for adding Diazinon to the seed rows. I used them to put a solution of Humates, fish and kelp into the seed rows. Got great germination and quick growth to the 2nd true leaf stage.

Gotta feed the pigs, I'll check your website late.

 I can't find one anywhere near here so I'm thnking about building a dual toolbar for my Allis G like the one pictured above in the Jun 17 post by Contrary Farmer.  I have a few Planet jr cultivator shanks, shoes and clamps plus a few other odd cultivator pieces so I probably only need to fabricate the frame itself. Can anyone get throuogh the snow and take measurements from their frame for overall length and width?  What is the thickness, width and wall thickness of the steel tubing?  How about a sketch of the attaching arms with dimensions too?  Winter is brutal here in Minnesota and I need an in-the-shop project!