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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8192 |
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I seen where Aunt Allis took 4 th in the 6400 lb class, , the top 8 are going to the finals --hope that tractor + driver sees the 1 place spot!
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3787 |
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I am not familiar with the pulls there. What is the tractor and what division is it?
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8192 |
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Aunt Allis is a 200 AC - P- pumped and twin turbo, , i think, 6400 limited light super stock class, very good looking smooth runnin machine ,
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8192 |
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Gutless Generals also kickin butt in a heavier class
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Gary ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5665 |
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allischalmerguy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Deep River, IA Points: 2880 |
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Aunt Allis is a good tractor, I don't know the guy who owns it but he lives about 20 minutes from me I imagine. I have seen him pull before. Go Aunt Allis!
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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wi50 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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Well the Allis ran fine but a 4 cyl Minne ran a lil better.
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8192 |
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Yup it did! Thats pullin
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4984 |
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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ILGLEANER ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6448 |
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4 cylinder kicks butt in the class.....LOL !!!! IG |
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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.
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wi50 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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We got home. What a riot, I had fun at the pull and more fun later. I wish I would have had more time Saturday afternoon to talk but was busy.
There's a video of the 4 cyl in Gordyville on youtube. Search for Spiegelberg Rattitude and you'll find it. I'm not smart enough to post a link. I wish I could say more about a pet rat project but I'm sworn to secrecy. I can't rember if I used top secrete machining....or topfuel machining? Purosity or porosity welding rod but it was purely awesome whatever rod I used. There's a reason that motor sounds different and makes that kind of torque. Edited by wi50 - 06 Jan 2013 at 11:59pm |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Rod B ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Peoria Points: 415 |
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You mean to tell me a 4 banger won in a tough class of 6 cyl's? Those other pullers must have been listening to pankey propaganda if they let a 4 banger out of weegieland win. So much for quench motors, high rod ratios and counterweighted cranks being bad for engine performance.
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Carl(NWWI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: NW WI Points: 954 |
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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So what class is this Orange?
[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=vRS8YG5Osgs&feature=endscreen[/TUBE] http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=vRS8YG5Osgs&feature=endscreen Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 07 Jan 2013 at 12:40pm |
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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So wi when you going to learn how to build a allis. For the allis pulling forun?
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unstylish_ ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Dec 2012 Location: southwestern Mi Points: 129 |
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Pank you shoulda showed...Wi50 and RodB were a blast to go to a pull with.
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Rod B ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Peoria Points: 415 |
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Aren't you the same mlpankey that's been spankin himself anytime wi shows his Allis's? Or other peoples Allis projects? Looks like wi taught you how to build your 7" stroke wet dream.
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4984 |
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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WildBill ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 2012 Location: Mandan,ND Points: 190 |
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Now that there was funny . !
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Allis fan for life ! B,C,2-WC'S,WD45G,D19G,190xt ,LLSS 8010, terra tiger refurbished
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Hudsonator ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Location: Tennessee Points: 2113 |
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Dang, when cubic inches count - Molines rule.
Add a compression device, they rule bigtime huh? Very cool tractor, hats off to the engineers responsible.
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There isn't much a WC can't do.
WD's just do it better. |
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wi50 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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That class is called Light Limeted Super Stock. Limeted means 370 cubic inches on alcohol with a 3" inlet turbo, 4" exhaust. Diesels can be 310 inch twin turbo or 410 inches with a single turbo.
So the Minne has no advantage. It's dis advantaged.........the diesels usually win on short tracks like Gordyville. The track there is brutal. That 5 Star was built as a bit of an afterthought. They run a White also, bought a used Minne engine to get by while the 5.9 Cummins was getting worked on. The 4 cyl siamesed port engine was ok but was never going to be dominant by any means because of it's design. I'd love to share some more but I can't say much more than airflow means everything. I did a bunch of induction work, people tend to overlook some of the most important details in engine performance. Some things matter and some things don't. Some people are alwayse worried about maximum HP. Others worry about trying to make the most "power under the curve". |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Hudsonator ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Location: Tennessee Points: 2113 |
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Lots of different (and remarkably easy) ways to come up with 370 or 410 inches in a Minnie - which is why I love 'em. Bunches of different heads too.
As best as I can tell, no single tractor dominates anymore with the rules as they are up at that level. Which, I can see as a good thing. A poor orphan like that Moline can still have its day on occasion - as well as the Allis.
Airflow is everything? Yep. Working with flatheads for the last decade, one learns the art of "managed" airflow.
Anyhow, very nice work Wi50 - I'm impressed. I'd like to collaborate with you on my own "Drunken Allis" projets coming up. NO pulling, building tough edgy, alky burners for the farm. I'm into endurance these days. LOL
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There isn't much a WC can't do.
WD's just do it better. |
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Rod B ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Peoria Points: 415 |
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Dis-advantaged? Sure it is
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Hudsonator ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Location: Tennessee Points: 2113 |
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Yeah, Huh - that's what I thought! Reckon they actually check the cubes on those things? Newp, too shocked something like that actually won.
I pulled a mag-fired, hand cranked WC for 20 years - nobody ever checked my cubes or compression - but the rules said...! LOL Sometimes there's a benefit to at least "appearing" obsolete and archaic.
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There isn't much a WC can't do.
WD's just do it better. |
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Carl(NWWI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: NW WI Points: 954 |
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So pank, when you actually going to build a tractor that makes it further then 150ft ? I was at Wi shop couple weeks ago, brought him some parts for one of my own, and he had a couple other projects (Allis) in there as well. So id say he builds orange as well pank. |
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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why want you just buy his its in the classifieds. recon the barn will stand if it comes out of it . |
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Carl(NWWI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: NW WI Points: 954 |
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Once again im not surprised, a 3 year old can answer questions better and have better come backs then you.
Why do I need to by it? Mine is already a proven winner, maybe you should though, then you'll have a chance to win.... He's not working on 226 parts. Im moving on to bigger and better things. Edited by Carl(NWWI) - 08 Jan 2013 at 5:16pm |
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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let us know when he gets yours finished for ya. tic tock does the clock have a date and year?
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Carl(NWWI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: NW WI Points: 954 |
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Don't worry commando, ill have vids of it this summer.
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