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Fellenz ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Location: Phelps, NY Points: 148 |
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Hello, I am nearing completion on the engine rebuild in our first Allis Chalmers 160. I'm getting ready to replace the gaskets around the oil pan, timing cover, rear oil seal, etc... Should I be using gasket cement on any of these gaskets, it sure seems like I was scraping enough cement off some of these surfaces during disassembly but the I&T book makes no mention either way so I figured it was a question worth asking. Anyone? Thanks! Erik |
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powertech84 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: Wisconsin Points: 467 |
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Are you refering to something like "high tack" or aviation gasket sealer? I use that stuff alot just because i can't afford to do things twice. I don't know too many places that it will hurt as long as you dont use too much. All you need is enough to make the piece tacky.
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wi50 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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I typically use a purple anerobic gasket sealer (if I could just rember the name, $20 a tube from Loctite) in areas where there is a seam, like on an oil pan gasket where the timing cover or rear plate meet the block. Otherwise I seldom use any sealent.
I commonly use a thin layer of grease on both sides of some gaskets to stick them in place and it makes it easy to take off for the next fella. After scraping and sanding away at some tough old gaskets and you'll appreciate the ones that peal off easy.
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John WV ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273 |
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I use high tack on one side of the gaskets to hald it in place.
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norm[ind] ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 2010 Location: bourbon,ind Points: 2992 |
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our dealer ship used alumium paint in the 50's -60's used them over just more paint will always come apart too we still do it today know you fellas do not beleive me huh this is older most of you |
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Chris(WA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Renton, WA Points: 228 |
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I will vouch for the High Tack as well! Great stuff for holding and sealing gaskets. For wide seams and gaps a dab of RTV fills the bill.
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Washingtonian by choice, Wisconsin Farmboy by the grace of God!
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Coke-in-MN ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41770 |
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trick to RTV is spreading in a rel thin film, not thick bead, then letting it glaze or set for 10 minutes or so to film, then install , if it oozes out then you have it to thick and will find it migrating inside where you don't want it .
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32184 |
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Another vote for high tack for basic gaskets as pans, timing covers with rtv in the junction corners; for all tin gaskets as head gaskets on the old flat heads a good coating of Copper Coat sealant to keep the liquids in the engines.
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Dave H ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3528 |
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Eric
I am in the process of finally putting my D 15 back together. What d you think of the IT manual you are using.
I think my Gensales bok is kinda lacking for putting the puzzle back together after too many years.
If you think the book is great/good where did you get it?
thanx
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Bob-Maine ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central Maine Points: 922 |
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Norm has a few years on me, but I remember my first car. I couldn't keep a head gasket in it. I tried everything, including having the head milled. Someone who was familiar with the engine told me to spray both sides of the head gasket with aluminum paint with two coats, drying between coats. My seventh head gasket lasted until I sold the car for $35.00 (it had not blown). But this was the head gasket only. Bob@allisdowneast
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