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Governor for 301 gas combine to tractor engine.
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    Posted: 05 Feb 2025 at 6:03pm
  My 7020 gas passer swap is great but as the experts here suggested it can be better with a tractor governor.
   Can anyone give me an idea of what parts are necessary to swap ? It looks like the parts are mostly external so no major surgery needed.
    Maybe a photo?
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The governor weights inside are different between tractor and combine. You need all the tractor internal and external parts to do this.
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Oh darn. I think I'll run it the way it is then.Not that bad to deal with.
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It's not a bad job at all. You just need a donor engine for the parts.
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ok thanks
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The difference is how the governor is designed to operate.

The combine power unit is intended to run the combine at a preset constant speed... it has a low-idle position, but when time to operate, it runs at that preset speed, not 'somewhere in-between.

The tractor engine is intended to be variable in it's speed setting... any point between low idle, and full speed.

The combine governor in a tractor application will work, but it will NOT be particularly stable at any point other than full governed speed.  It will be VERY stable at that speed... meaning... a very slight change in load will be responded to.

The variable governor of a tractor allows choosing the setpoint, but in doing so, sacrifices sensitivity and accuracy.

The constant speed governor of a power unit sacrifices adjustability for sensitivity and accuracy.
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So governor parts from a 190XT’s G2800 301 only?
What about the G2500’s governor parts used in either the 180gas or 190gas ??
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180-190-190XT all the same parts. 180 might have a weaker spring.
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Finding a donor engine may be a challenge nearby.I will start looking.
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I would not put up with a combine gov in a tractor! You may not find one close but there has to be plenty in salvage in the states. It can't be that cost prohibitive.
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Tomorrow is another week.I will start the search around here first . Any suggestions for possible places to try in the northern states?
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