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wildbill26 
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 3:59pm |
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I am looking at a b and it has a narrow front end is that factory or did some one put it on I would post a pic but dont know how, it might not even be a b
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FredW
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 4:35pm |
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Could be a C, is the rear end fairly wide or straddle two rows. B is a one row tractor. Fred
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 4:37pm |
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Could be B with a C front yes.
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 4:45pm |
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Is the serial # a B or does the owner just say it's a B? The serial is just in front of the shifter, Tractor No. B###### or C######
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 4:47pm |
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No factory Bs were made with narrow front ends. The B is about 5 ft wide outside the rear tires, and the C is about 6 ft wide outside to outside tire. That is adjustable quite a bit, but its a reference. If it is a B it probalby has the rear wheel hubs pressed onto the axle shaft and a 2 inch nut holding it on. If its a C it probalby has a 5 bolt pattern like a truck holding the hubs onto the axle.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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wildbill26
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 4:58pm |
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the owner said its a b, I didnt look at the serial number, it dose have a 2 in nut holding the wheels on it though like steve said. so it looks like it might be a b with the wrong front end
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AllisChalmers37
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 5:35pm |
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That would be a unique show piece
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Bee
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 5:38pm |
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Does it have a padded seat or metal pan seat? how many forward gears?
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Bob, North Carolina
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Dick L
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 6:54pm |
Heres your basic narrow front Allis Chalmers B. As close to factory as I could fake it. Here it just rolled off the D L assembly bay. Ready to head out to pull. Took first on its first pull.   Does well in the field also.  
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Dick L
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 7:00pm |
It was narrow when I bought it. It has a C steering box in this picture which I changed back to a B steering box and fabricated the steering box arm to use it with the arm down like a B arm. 
Edited by Dick L - 21 Oct 2010 at 7:01pm
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GT in Indiana
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 7:17pm |
Very nice job Dick L. Looks very cool and obviously performs well.
THX for the PIX
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Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 9:26pm |
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Mr. DL, do you think they may have done a tranny-forward swap on that, or was it a "Johnny Cash"-type of mod? In other words, did they have a C with a bad tranny and a B with a bad motor lying around, and one day said "hmmm, and two become one". Just wondering what the engine number, steering gear(Gemmer or Ross), and such were, as compared to the tractor serial number on the tranny.
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I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!
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Dick L
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Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 7:00am |
Your question comes up every time I post the pictures. The answer is no. I bought as a factory B. The guy I bought it from knew that it was factory for sure as he knew the guy he bought it from that bought it from the from the guy that bought it brand new and it always had the narrow front right from the dealer. I proved that not to be true when I swapped out the torque tube to have a starter. The lobe at the bottom where the wishbone connects had many hours of ware where the wide front had worked into the metal.  When I rebuild one I do look at all parts one at a time. I can be lied to but the parts don't lie.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 8:25am |
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Didn' all the c's have foot brakes also?
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Dave Richards (WV)
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Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 8:32am |
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To answer your question Mike, No. The first six months of C production had hand brakes.
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wildbill26
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Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 3:24pm |
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the tractor Im looking at looks like the one dick l posted, thanks guys and for the anser to bee it has a padded seat and 3 rorward and 1 reverse, thanks again guys for all the help
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