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Allis G - Strange creature?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CJohnS MI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 10:57am
As soon as I saw that first G,  I knew there was something genius in it. It won't be worth a hoot to anybody running a big operation, but I can clearly see why vineyards, orchards and small truck growers would love the things. You get right close and personal with the ground, the plants and the equipment.

May not be the stuff bragging looks for, but very useful anyways.

In fact, I've been looking for the raw materials to build something as suited to purpose as the G is - heck of a machine.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerald J. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 10:58am
There are two vintages of cubs. The early ones were tall like an IH A, the later ones compact mostly for mowing. I remember the whine and my inattention when I drove one at the St. Louis County Fair when I was probably about 5, if that old. It was planned for kids so a responsible adult rode the drawbar and kept it in the driving trace.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote firebrick43 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 11:08am
Originally posted by Brad MI Brad MI wrote:

They are likely the most copied and most modified for current use tractor ever produced! I don't think the jury is out on the G's commercial success, they were and are one of the most useful and timeless tractors ever produced. If AC made a mistake with the G it was not keeping it and updating it. The only one row truck farm cultivator that could ever compete with it around here was the Hartford/Friday Wiggle Hoe, which the operator steered with his feet and wiggled the cultivator tines around the plant with his hands. The little lopsided Farmalls simply weren't in the game. 



While I know you are thinking about the ride on tractors, don't forget the gravely walkbehind tractors.  They, along with the italian updates(grillo and bcs) are still being used in large numbers out there with more versatility (more attachments) than even the swiss pocket knife G could belt out.  You could ride the sulky to cover more acres, and of course you could have very narrow row spacing, which to be a plus/negative really depends on the crops you are attending to.  But you will find a lot of truck farms still have this class of machine in use, sometimes exclusively, some times with a ride on tractor as well. 

The Gravely was made in much higher numbers. 
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I was plowing with my G in 1st gear when it just stopped moving, the PTO and hydraulic still worked. I had to get towed home. I tore it down and found that the right axel had broke right at the differential gears. It looked to me that it had work harden and shattered  from many years of slightly twisting. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dick L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 12:58pm
I have three G's. One will never get to a usable tractor the one I rebuilt and the other one is all there and I hope to get to it.
The G has to be used to see how well they do in plowing and fitting ground. They are easy on an old man to cultivate with. No leaning one way until cramps start and lean the other way until the cramps start on that side using a B.
 
The Grandhaven competed with the G as well as the Friday. 
I have one and a half of the Grandhaven's. The rear half of the Grandhaven had the front half of a G bolted to it when I bought it at an auction.
 
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A G breaking an axle has been mentioned on this forum before so its not unheard of. And seems like it usually was at the splines which left a piece without a handle for easy removal.

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It can be carried in the back of a pick-up with an 8 foot bed but "fit nicely" might be overstating it a bit. Ha!
When I was measuring mine it was just a bit under 11 feet from the snout to the rear end (rear drawbar).  Front of the front tires to the back of the rear tires was about 8 feet 6 inches.
 
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Originally posted by Bob-Maine Bob-Maine wrote:

My G should be back together some time this year. Discovered a bad ring gear and pinion gear late in the restoration. But one thing I didn't see mentioned is the hauling issue. The G will fit nicely in the back of a 3/4 ton 8' pickup box. I'm looking for one now so that I can bring my G from Maine to Hutchinson, MN and Gadsden, AL next year and leave the trailer home. Bob@allisdowneast
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