Monoframe plow vs other makes

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   Want to do some fall plowing a bit faster than with my 4 furrow. Looking at an AC 6F 16" monoframe plow (I think series 2000), hyd resets. Anybody with thoughts on these? Were they a good plow? What price range should one look at for one with let's say at least  750-1000 acres left in it? What other makes are recommended? Should I look at 7 or 8 furrow (will pull it with my AC 220)? What else should I be looking at-i.e. is vari-width option a good idea? Appreciate everyones thoughts or advice. 

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Dale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Points: 375	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Monoframe plow vs other makes Posted: 17 Sep 2010 at 8:14pm
	Want to do some fall plowing a bit faster than with my 4 furrow. Looking at an AC 6F 16" monoframe plow (I think series 2000), hyd resets. Anybody with thoughts on these? Were they a good plow? What price range should one look at for one with let's say at least 750-1000 acres left in it? What other makes are recommended? Should I look at 7 or 8 furrow (will pull it with my AC 220)? What else should I be looking at-i.e. is vari-width option a good idea? Appreciate everyones thoughts or advice.

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Gerald J. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gerald J. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Sep 2010 at 8:51pm
	I have a 4x18 2000 monobeam plow with 392 bottoms. In my ground the damp spots were pulling harder than the hitch geometry and lack of front weights on my JD 4020 could handle and keep the fronts wheels on the ground. That was at about 3.5 mph in third gear. When the front wheels got up to 6' off the ground, I ripped the plow out of the ground and headed for the shed. I took off the front bottom, making it 3x18, moved the hitch over and down so it didn't have so much chance of raring and added all the front weight I had available. Then I continued plowing in 5th gear at 5.5 mph. Easier on the tires and me, but harder on the clutch. I liked the results better in 5th gear because the plow turned the dirt over faster and crumbled the ribbon of dirt most of the time leaving a level field without significant marks of furrows. That made it quicker to level with the disk. To get my plow about ten years ago, I had to outbid the steel man and the green plows next to it were cut up by the time I got back to pick up my AC plow. The piles of cutting torch sl*g were there. I put new shins on some of the bottoms. Plows are rarely used in central Iowa these days. I suspect at a consignment sale these days, I'd get scrap iron weight price. Unprepared tin brought 5 cents a pound this afternoon at Ames. I'm not using the plow and don't anticipate using other than maybe for adjusting a bit of field needing a surface drain, though my tenant can probably do it just as fast with his big tractor and loader. Gerald J.

DanWi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1860	Post Options Post Reply Quote DanWi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Sep 2010 at 9:31pm
	depending on soil type 6 bottoms should be just about right behind a220. almost a 40 year old tractor why work it to death now by trying more. 2000 plows are a little short in clearance if trying to plow heavy cornstalks unless they are chopped otherwise a good plow.

Steve M C/IL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: shelbyville IL Points: 691	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve M C/IL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Sep 2010 at 10:11pm
	Around here 6-16's is a good match for a 220 with a little extra fuel in 5th gear.Timber soils.

Amos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Points: 1318	Post Options Post Reply Quote Amos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Sep 2010 at 11:49pm
	I pull 8 16s on the land with one 2000 plow with my 210 in 4th gear. Need to be careful in heavy alfalfa roots as the front wheels get up in the air a bit and I am right out of power when into them. We also use a 6 16 2000 behind the 200 or 190XT (usually the one that the wheels are adjusted to the right place at the time we need to plow). Both plows do a good job for us. As some of you may have figured out we are in sandy loam soil. We only plow hay fields to rotate them or old pastures.

Kurzy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Location: WSS, Montana Points: 808	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kurzy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 2010 at 8:11am
	Howdy Dale, We do alot of plowing around here, Wisconsin. Plows bring different prices in different parts of the country. Now for what Dan said about AC 2000 plows have low clerance. Yes some do but, I have two AC 2000 plows, One regular [low clerance] and the other high clerance. Yes Allis made high clerance plows!! Those works very good in corn stalks. Talking from expierence. Kurzy

Stan IL&TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stan IL&TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 2010 at 9:27am
	We had a 2000 mono-frame 5 bottoms and pulled it with the 190XT series 3 then we added a 6th bottom when dad traded up to the 7045. It was hard to tell it was back there unless you hit a wet spot.
	1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson

Eric[IL] Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 485	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eric[IL] Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Sep 2010 at 9:29am
	AC's monoframe plows are good. Later years of the 2000 series had over 32" clearance. The monoframe plows are strong, but you need to view them for cracks. Take the time to look under each furrow's mounting bracket for any cracks where the unit bolts to the monoframe square tubing. My 6-18 with 392s has 32" clearance and is in great condition. But, my older 5-16 with 387s only has 28" clearance and was abused before I got it. I am thinking the 5-16 must have been pulled too deep & too fast?