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Hydraulic pump for Model C
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    Posted: 19 Sep 2010 at 8:20pm
I have just purchased a Model C without hydraulics. I plan to add a three point hitch.
I am unsure on where the pump was mounted.
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The pump is mounted on the rear pumpkin and is driven off the PTO shaft. The Allis pump is Hi-Pressure, low volume; especially the one that came with the C. Pump is the same same the B series Allis.
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I don't know about the C, but some of the early B's that didn't have hydraulics, didn't have the cam lobes on the pto shaft to run a hydraulic pump. You might want to pull the plate off (under the seat) where the pump bolts up and see if there are cams on the shaft.
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Thanks for the info will check for the lobes.
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Ron,  If you have a very early B yes as Charlie says you will first need to upgrade your PTO/Belt pulley.  You can easily see if you have the lobes without removing the cover.  Look and see if it is a small round cap with no bolts or if it is a square cover bolted on it will have lobes.  If that is the case all that is needed is a pump, ram, and if you wish to have a two way plow a LH ram and a selector valve and some plumbing.  You may find this on the vendors who advertise here or you can check on e-bay under Allis Chalmers.  Sometimes one pops up.

Good Luck!
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