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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 7:59am |
Hello all, new to the forum and looking for help on a wagon I have.
I have an Allis Chalmers wagon but can not find much information on it.
The wagon is currently 12' long, 6' wide, has a grain box on top of the running gear. Grain box has what I call a grain door at the rear - much like the old grain trucks of the 50's. Wagon running rear looks extendable.
The wagon is in really pretty good shape. It still has the tongue and groove flooring, clear allis chalmers markings on the rear with the data plate still attached and has an allis chalmers dump mechanism with markings and tag on it.
What I am trying to find out is approximate age of the wagon, is the grain box original, is it one I can use hauling brush without worrying about destroying it, and what ton rating it could have originally been.
I have pics I can email but am not sure how to post pics here.
Thanks for you help.
Ryan
Edited by teamja2 - 12 Sep 2010 at 8:02pm
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RichinWis
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 8:09am |
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most of the Allis wagons of that vintage have a number stenciled on the angle braces that extend from the center pole to either the front or back, like 501, 801, etc. these numbers ie the first one like the 5, or the eight is usually the tonnage of it. Most of these wagons were made in the 60's, and were made by electric wheel company. they also made some of the spinout wheels for the tractors. HTH
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 8:10am |
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Pics are worth 1000 words. Some of the folks here post pics regularly and hopefully will help you figure out how to do it. A-C wagons are not an everyday find, so I'd be careful about hauling brush in it.
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 8:22am |
This may be your wagon. 
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teamja2
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 8:26am |
That's it. Thanks.
It was being used for beans before I purchased it and someone had added a seating rail on the outside of the box that adds about a foot on each side. Box looks identical as well.
Ryan
Edited by teamja2 - 06 Sep 2010 at 8:29am
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:22pm |
Does this wagon have any value or just use it and keep it good?
Ryan
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:43pm |
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I would guess it has more value to an Allis collector than some other wagon. If you use it and store it under a roof, it shouldn't hurt the value.I have a nice Montgomery Ward wooden barge box I use for brush and such and would trade for the Allis wagon but mine has a high pressure hoist under it for the early Allis hydraulic systems.
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 3:08pm |
I bought one a few years ago I paid 1,300 for it they are pretty rare.
Joe
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 6:43pm |
Thanks for the info. My wagon looks identical and was a craigslist find that appears in similar shape to your wagon.
Thanks all.
Ryan
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Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 7:16pm |
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If you bought it to haul brush. Please sell it to a colloetor and get anouther one. I'm sure some one would love to have a real allis wagon / gear for there antique corn or grain harvesters to fill.
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Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 7:02am |
What should I ask for it as I bought it to use but would consider moving it to a collector if it is a scarce wagon.
Update - I have decided to keep the wagon for now.
Ryan
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Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 7:08am |
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Your location may be an important factor to someone considering buying it from you.
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Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 8:01pm |
Pictures added. Follow Link.
Ryan
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Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 8:35pm |
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I think you have a 6 ton gear under the bed, good find
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Posted: 14 Sep 2010 at 8:27pm |
Nice discussion. I have a 1001 with a hoist and a 301 used for onion/potatoe farming. They are great wagons. I did some research in case I ever needed parts/service. I found that Electric Wheel was sold is now owned by Titan the AG tire maker.
Electric Wheel was a stellar company and had a great reputation for producing awesome equipment. Going orange is going great!
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Posted: 15 Sep 2010 at 12:39pm |
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Electric Wheel manufactured them for AC? I have an Oliver gear made by the Electric Wheel Co.
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Posted: 15 Sep 2010 at 2:27pm |
Interesting discussion.
It's been years since I've seen one of those wagons.
Nice find!!!!!
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