WD with Hydraulics that won't hold

Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic

   Any help will be appreciated....I recently purchased a WD with a 3 point hitch.  There is no location on the Hydraulic control lever that will "hold" the 3 point somewhere between max up or max down. Either it's up or it's down.  Additionally, while discing with this 3 pt, it appears if the disc begins to pull to hard, the 3pt will automatically raise until it begins to pull easier.  Two questions:

1) Am I going to damage the hydraulics by simply leaving the Hydraulic control arm in a max up position while traveling between fields etc.?

2) Is it normal for the hydraulics to "self adjust" depending on how hard the implement pulls?

	This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
	The Forum	Parts and Services	Unofficial Allis Store	Tractor Shows	Serial Numbers	History

Author	Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic
Gary S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: WD with Hydraulics that won't hold Posted: 26 Jun 2010 at 9:13am
	Any help will be appreciated....I recently purchased a WD with a 3 point hitch. There is no location on the Hydraulic control lever that will "hold" the 3 point somewhere between max up or max down. Either it's up or it's down. Additionally, while discing with this 3 pt, it appears if the disc begins to pull to hard, the 3pt will automatically raise until it begins to pull easier. Two questions: 1) Am I going to damage the hydraulics by simply leaving the Hydraulic control arm in a max up position while traveling between fields etc.? 2) Is it normal for the hydraulics to "self adjust" depending on how hard the implement pulls?

Sponsored Links

CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2010 at 12:59pm
	1) No, I don't think it will hurt, although there is supposed to be a hold position in the middle. Someone else might describe how to check that out. 2) Yes, that was the draft control set up called "traction boost" that made the WD what it was. It can be adjusted to not work by following the proper procedure for the hydraulic controls.
	http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

Lester Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Location: Indiana Points: 518	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lester Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2010 at 1:46pm
	There are 3 main adjustments and it sounds like your WD is set for traction booster instead of hold.

Don(MO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bates City MO. Points: 6862	Post Options Post Reply Quote Don(MO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2010 at 3:42pm
	Here you go Gary, This will help you get her set right. Don
	3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.

Don(MO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bates City MO. Points: 6862	Post Options Post Reply Quote Don(MO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2010 at 3:46pm
	OK I'll try this one more time. lol Edited by Don(MO) - 26 Jun 2010 at 3:49pm
	3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.

Gary S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2010 at 11:28pm
	First off, I want to sincerely thank CTuckerNWIL, Lester and Don(Mo), the three gentlemen that replied to my request. Based on their replies, it sounds as if the hydraulics can be adjusted to one of three different ways: either 1) Drawbar Control (Traction Booster) or 2) Hold Position 0r 3) Delayed Lift Based on those three possiblities, I agree,it does sound like my WD is set in the Drawbar Control Mode. It also sounds like if it is set in the Drawbar Control Mode there may or may not be a position other than max up or max down on the Hydraulic Control Lever to hold an implement somewhere between max up or max down. Additionally, it doesn't sound like I will damage anything by leaving the Hydraulic Control Lever in a max up position when transitioning with the equipment. Ironically, it sounds as if the hydraulics are already adjusted to an optimum setting for what I'm currently using it for. I simply wasn't aware of what normal is for these three hydraulic settings with a WD. Thanks again,
	Gary S from Minneapolis

twacker55 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Location: Minnesota Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote twacker55 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 6:12pm
	I thought I would just add on to this post because my problem is similar. The pump is set for drawbar control which seemed to work fine for disking. I bought a 3 pt mower and it seems like the hold position would be better. It sounds like all I have to do to change over is put screw A in and Screw B out which locks the plates together. Or do I have to go through all the steps? Tim

Bill Long Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Long Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 7:44pm
	Gary, Read carefully what is posted above for the hold position. We used it for years and it worked well. However, now the tractor and Hyd System are some 57 to 62 years old. Therefore, things, wear and tear, can happen that we never thought of in 1948 - 1953. If you do what is required for the hold position you should hear a click when the detent ball that holds the hyd is in position. Hopefully you will have to go no further. If not then you may have to do some internal work on your pump. Hope not! Good Luck! Bill Long