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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI 
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Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 1:03pm |
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I have been contemplating getting a hay baler and baling some square bales for our ponies instead of buying hay each fall. I got all the other equipment already to bale hay, just need something to do the baling. I'm not looking for anything big or fancy or with a thrower as I don't have alot of hay to do so I figure I can either go back and throw the bales on a wagon or have my dad come over or the wife drive and I'll stack. Was wondering what a good decent baler would be that's reliable and parts are still available if something breaks. I was thinking about just doing it with a rotobaler too, but I don't know if they're easier or harder to diagnose and troubleshoot. If anyone has something for sale in WI, northeastern IL, or northwestern IN, I may be interested.
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bigfish_Oh
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Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 1:14pm |
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Chuck, I roto baler is for you !!! Their are a lot of practical drawbacks and I am sure it will cost more to get that first load . but what fun !!!!
I never got to see round bales as a kid, Grandpa had squares by then and was glad. my Dad was good and put up all kinds of bales. They put 20,000 in the barn before. My mom just told me this year that she(Dad's girlfriend in high school) remembered the square baler coming and Grandpa could not load a wagon, never saw a square bale. She had to show him how , they had always done square IH bales !
I had a roto a few years ago, if my video will transfer, I have some footage of the rare E21 doing the raking
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Clay in MI
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Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 10:23pm |
I wonder if that AC 303 is still available in Taylors Falls/St Croix area? It was posted on here about a month ago. In my experiences New Holland balers have been most trouble free / easiest to fix. If you can stomach a green machine, the JD 14T and 24T (as well as the newer models) also have a good reputation.
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Jack(Ky)
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Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 10:40pm |
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New Holland is a very good choice. There are lots of them available and you can get plenty of new parts if you need any. A lot of the parts interchange from one model to the other.JP
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 11:03pm |
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We had both square and small round bales on our dairy farm when I was younger.My dad liked the roto baler.He said once you could figure out how to set it you could bale all day.The square baler(Case)would shear bolts and plug if fed too fast.For all the more you are going to bale I think you could find a good square baler that parts are still available for.
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Jim Lindemood
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:02am |
I enjoy baling with a square baler. Do most of our hay with a Hesston round baler, but always do some with the Allis 442 square baler, just because I enjoy the D17D hauling it around a field, popping out the bales without having to stop. The squares laying in the field gives a neat pastoral scene --- picking them up is not quite as much fun - LOL.
If you don't mind color - the New Holland balers are pretty good and you can get service pretty easy.
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firebrick43
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 9:18am |
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My opinion is to buy the hay. It will be cheaper in the long run. But if you have to have a baler, I would suggest staying away from IH balers if you enjoy your sanity. They make uneven bales and some times just miss tie or don't tie for no apparent reason. We had 4 of them before we bought a new holland 575 and wondered why we didn't do so earlier. We were doing 100,000+ bales a year so the size of balers we had might not be of interest to you. The 575 required almost 75 hp going full bore. The older New Hollands required much less.
Remember to remove the hay from the bale chamber and store the machine inside to.
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GlenninPA
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 9:41am |
If you can find an old NH 66 that is not wore out, it will be about the best baler you could ever want for that task. Small, easy to adjust/work on, doesn't need a lot of power, and they made millions of 'em. They will not pump out big production, but for pony hay they are enough. We still run 5000 bales/yr at my uncles with one, and it just chugs along.
Can you tell I used to work for NH? :>)
I have a bunch of old service manual, etc for that stuff......
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 10:45am |
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I have not heard anything about old masseys,we thought we were in trouble after the first year with the old #9 but the one field we got done this year had no sheered pins and no misties in 200 bales. just can't get in a hurry with it I guess.but there is not a lot of that brand around here.
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 4:32pm |
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Have d17 parts but pm box is full. Gary IN
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BobHnwO
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 4:58pm |
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I bought a NH 268 baler about 6 years ago for $350,put $150 in it,makes perfect bales every year.
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 5:17pm |
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i satrted out borrowing the neighbors NH67 hayliner for a couple of years. then i bought a NH 68, then a NH 273 and now I run a NH 570. I have nothing but good things to say about the NH balers. if the hay is ready, they will bale it.
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 5:25pm |
Back in the early 60's New Holland sold 49% of all bailers sold.
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 6:47pm |
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Thanks for all the replies. My dad said the same thing that I would be cheaper off buying my hay then making it, but I like to do things myself so perfect opportunity. My dad has a New Idea haybine by him that I am getting and going to try and get up and running, so in the meantime, I will start hunting for a baler. Thanks for all the replies.
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AllisFreak MN
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Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 8:55pm |
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New Holland 273, no doubt about it.
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