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AC720man and Guys,
Thanks for the pictures and support on this CA project! 
Yea a old puller doesn't need to look grand. But I am going to try to improve my body work and paint skills. Why at 73 years old??? I have no idea why! I like the idea to make improvements, we will see how this turns out.
Snowing here again today. So we are riding the couch watching you-tube where guys are  doing body work.
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I need to go to where I have all my rims and centers stored. At one time I had and odd flat bolt center wheel just like the one you have. All my others were the dimple bolt circle ones.
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Paul,
 Thanks! I havent been working very hard on the CA. Thanks for the hint on the bigger oil pump, you were correct.
My ambition got up and went lately! Went to the shop for supper and in a hour and a half our tracks were covered. 
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Chris, you are doing way better than me - I can't get much done when it's below 30 degrees here. My shop isn't great to try to heat. I am so jealous of your buildings.

I too would use that pitted wheel center.
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wjohn,
Yes I like the shop, but its expensive to heat. But we really like the heat coming up through your shoes. Our dog Ruby wants to stay in the shop and lay on the 69 degree floor in the kitchen area where we hang out a lot. 
If I have any recommendations on a building with several big overhead doors like ours. It would be to get even better insulation in them. I think ours are R16, but the wind seemed to be whistling through them up here on the hill.
I hope that i do help get you going on your CA.
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Guys,
Not a lot going on here, which is pretty much the norm anymore. Temps are around zero. That D14 with the blade really works well to get some of the snow moved around in the drive area.

Tractor shop on the left, Sugar house on the right.

Going through fuel (propane) like crazy. But the shop is comfortable.

I did get the valve cover surface cleaned up. Will mask the valves and the bottom end.
Need to get some primer and orange on this block:

Ordered headlights and bullet tail light today from Alex here on the forum.
Found some old steel sheet stock to repair the fender. It's about .060 thick. 
Have the tool box steering cover in the E-tank to clean the inside of some of the rust.
Regards,
 Chris and Cheryl


Edited by Sugarmaker - 21 Jan 2025 at 3:27pm
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Beautiful shop Chris, what size is it? I’m still shopping around, metal building or stick built. Metal buildings certainly are less expensive and go up in 3 days. I’m looking at a 30’x70’ with a 30’ lean two off of it. 3- 10x10 garage doors, 12 ft ceiling. Enough to get the biggest tractor, my XT, inside. Will see how much more a 14’ ceiling cost, 1-12x12 door so I don’t have to cut off any of the straight pipe. Right now all my stuff is at the farm in a open face building which is fine but I would like to get it out of the afternoon sunlight.
CA is looking good, snow is sticking around here as well. 4 degrees this morning and a high of 24 most of the week. Other than feeding cows twice a day I’m staying inside.
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AC720Man,
The shop is 40 deep x 64 long. As mentioned when I started a thread on the shop build on this forum (Shop Talk thread) They are never big enough. Sounds like you have a good design that will fit your needs. I would recommend 12 foot wide doors. I really like that width. My grandson is having a post type building put up with steel roof and siding. It's taken since the middle of Sept and not close to being done. He has a contractor friend working on it when they can. It is 40 x 60 with a 14 x 60 lean to, on the south side. 

How many cows do you have? What is the breed? My dad had dairy grade Holestiens most of his life. I helped on the farm and lived on his other farm about 5 miles away where he had young stock. Cold weather tests everything! You had to keep moving to stay warm.

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We just have a small farm now so the herd has been cut back to 14 Hereford and a few Angus beef cattle. Our bull is a pure breed pole Hereford. Cattle prices have been doing well for the past 2 years. Making quality orchard grass hay is what we enjoy most.
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Hey Chris!  It's not how old you are, it's how old you feel. I'll be 73 this year. With Arthritus in each shoulder, I still have a lot of projects to finish. Ya gotta' keep goin' man! I'm very jealous of that shop you have. That's a beauty!! And you're right, they're never big enough!  LOL!  When it's zero outside, you'll go through that Propane like Grant went through Richmond! Stay warm and watch the ice.......
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Steve, Folks,
We will talk at some point on a wiring harness for this project. 
Propane Yea the shop is sucking the fuel right now. The temp was -10F last night. I called for propane a about 2 weeks ago. Called them yesterday and they are running behind. They put me on a special list for quicker fill up. Yea right:) Might have to get a bigger tank?
Some days I miss having a wood fire in the house. But I don't miss the work.
I did get the CA engine block masked off for primer and top coat. 
Trying to do just a little in between folks visiting and us resting during the cold temps. And Yes I am trying to keep Cheryl and I moving some each day. 
Regards,
 Chris and Cheryl
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Folks,
Still prototyping this spray booth. A fan with some filters on both sides. May help?? If I ever spray something??:)

Some sheet metal to repair the rusted fender. Found this scrap in the corner. Rough, but should work. 

Sanded the spokes of the steering wheel

The Ross steering box. opened drained of sludge and old black lube. Will clean it up, new gaskets, and fresh lube.


The E tank working on the tool box rust.

Regards,
 Chris and Cheryl
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The paint bay I paint in is my best friends farm bay. Completely sealed, insulated. 2-20”x20” filters/vents to suck in fresh outdoor air. Dual 20”x20” fans pulling air outside. Explosion proof of course, does well moving air. Full nose/mouth breathing mask, dual filters, I don’t smell any fumes. I tried the full suit, full mask, fresh air fed from outside. I couldn’t deal with it, hose kept getting in the way, mask fogged up. I couldn’t see to paint. The important thing is to get the fumes away so you don’t inhale them. Stay safe, it’s fun to paint until it effects your health.
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Just make sure you wear a mask while painting

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AC720Man, tadams(OH), Folks,
Sounds like a great paint booth to work in.
Mask for sure, If I ever get started?
Today John and I worked on an old rusted CA fender.

This had rust in the area where it bolts for the tractor. 

An old hunk of scrap to fill the void:

A little shaping to help the patch match up at the seam.

The old Mig is all I have to stick this together:

Spot, cool, repeat:

A grinder here and there:

A few taps with hammer and dolly. This is where we can primer and smooth with a few coats of filler.

The other fender will be on the agenda for another day. 

Regards,
 Chris and Cheryl


Edited by Sugarmaker - 23 Jan 2025 at 7:58pm
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+1 wear a Good mask, especially if two part epoxy type paint or clear coat. That stuff hardens in your lungs forever.

And explosion proof fans.

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Nice work Chris, big improvement.
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Awesome job and great progress!!!
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Guys,
Cut out the less than clean brazed section of the fender:

Fit a patch into the hole:



Welded up some of the extra holes in the fenders

Ready for some primer then finish with some filler.

Steering support is rusted out so that needs repairs with thinner material.

Regards,
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As my southern Bavarian grandfather would say, that thing is gonna look like a laguerda hundsaboidle, when you get finished!  I won't  provide the exact translation from the local slang from whence it emanates, suffice it to say, shiny object!Wink
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Dave and Guys,
Yes shiny may happen on this old CA.
 I am a little concerned about the engine build/ assembly I want to learn more and possibly take the head back off and degree the cam. Yes this is a step back for sure but If I am going to learn and get the most out of this cam I better do it now.  Will let you know how that works out.

Back to the body work:
I have added a stiffener under the hood to help reduce oil canning of the hood sheet metal. This should help with the final forming.




Next, friend John helped clean up the steering support sheet metal:

We cut 3 inches off the bottom on the left side below the tool box lid area. Transfered the holes.



After priming this will need a light coat of filler.

A trial fit after repairing the rusted out area.



I also added a wire chase for the inside of the fender with the tail light. I used a piece of small angle iron shaped to fit.


Regards,
 Chris and Cheryl




Edited by Sugarmaker - 27 Jan 2025 at 8:05pm
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Beautiful work Chris, she's coming right along.
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Mike, Plummer, Folks,
Thanks!
John and I started to clean up the Ross steering box and column. And I did install the new gasket.

The gas tank will be next to clean up the outside some more prior to primer:

This is the handle for the tool box. John wants this to remain shiny:

I have been learning about degreeing the cam. (7000 you tube videos for small block Chevys) I typically learn by doing, so this will be a small project. Of course I should have done that with the head off. A couple steps back but I will keep you upto date on the cam checking and or adjusting process.
I did order a degree wheel today. Also talked to a local machine shop and they are willing to build some tooling for me to mount the degree wheel to the crank snout. 
Oh yeah will need some new gaskets too. 
I did find the cam specs:

Regards,
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Edited by Sugarmaker - 6 hours 53 minutes ago at 7:27pm
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Chris and John nice work. Can I send my D14 fenders to you for that same repair? Lol, mine need similar surgery and you’ve done a great job! Keep the good work up, she is looking great.
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