Front End Loader

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   Coupla questions.
#1 Was there an A-C  Model 170 front end loader?

#2 If so, was it built by New Idea?

I have a loader that came on a WD-45 I bought several years ago.
It seems a little big for a WD-45 and it was "cobbed" to fit it.
The main lift arms have a tag that has been painted over several times
which says Allis-Chalmers with what appears to be model 170.
The frame which bolts to the tractor has a plate that says New Idea
Model 506, Lot #ML-113, Ser. # 681.

Are these supposed to go together or is it more likely that someone combined parts from the two to make one?

Thanks

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Brian G. NY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: 12194 Points: 2243	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian G. NY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Front End Loader Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 1:32pm
	Coupla questions. #1 Was there an A-C Model 170 front end loader? #2 If so, was it built by New Idea? I have a loader that came on a WD-45 I bought several years ago. It seems a little big for a WD-45 and it was "cobbed" to fit it. The main lift arms have a tag that has been painted over several times which says Allis-Chalmers with what appears to be model 170. The frame which bolts to the tractor has a plate that says New Idea Model 506, Lot #ML-113, Ser. # 681. Are these supposed to go together or is it more likely that someone combined parts from the two to make one? Thanks

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Chris/CT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niantic, Ct Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris/CT Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 2:22pm
	Model 170 looks to be built by AC for the D-17 tractor. Around 1968+/_.Model and serial number on RH Frame member "Model 170-XXXX. Post pictures of frame for ID?

Brian G. NY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: 12194 Points: 2243	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian G. NY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 5:56pm
	Well, I've come to the conclusion that the loader arms are New Idea and the frame that bolts to the tractor is A-C; I had that reversed in my original post. This should be a good match for the D-17 I picked up this past winter. Altho the seller "threw in" a New Idea loader that he had used on the D-17, I believe this one is built much more ruggedly. I will attempt to send pictures later.

fixer1958 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: kansas Points: 2434	Post Options Post Reply Quote fixer1958 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 8:15pm
	Would have to see a pic because I am putting a #170 on mine and the main frame on the tractor fit like a glove. Looks decent also. The part that hangs off the axle is questionable, but that can be changed.