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Need some D17 education

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    Posted: 27 Feb 2010 at 7:01am
Sortof looking at a D17 coming up on an auction in a few weeks.  By the SN it's a 60, series 1.  Wide front, real straight sheet metal, good rubber, but didn't look her over that good.  All I know about it is water in the oil.  I'm assuming that would be liner o-rings, but understand it could be block/head.  Have a few questions about the big stick and the hyd.  The hyd is basically the same as my WD, right?  High vol, low pressure, single line out the back, correct?  Searching around, I have seen a few D17's with 2 way full hyd loaders, I assume that if it's not a series 4, then this was done with some extra valves creating a power beyond type setup.  I understand that the big stick gives the extra gears and that pulling it quick gives a sortof powershift.  My question is this, can the neutral in the big stick be used to change gears say from 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, or even from forward to reverse?  Could that be done with the PTO running, say mowing weeds or something.  Or would I still need to use the foot clutch and lose the PTO.  Last, knowing only 60 D17, wide front, good tin/rubber and water in the oil, whats the thing worth?
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Aaron, The power director is a great advantage. It doesn't however, allow changing of gears or from forward to reverse. Your correct, hydraulics are low volume,high pressure. If it is otherwise, they have done something as you describe or have added auxiliry hydraulic pump operated off of PTO or mounted up front and run off crank shaft. My guess on price with it getting water in oil is $1000 to tops $1500.00. Others may have better idea on price, but that is what I would consider if trying to buy it myself.  
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My D17 that I have been driving since new in 1959, I can shift it into any gear forward or reverse if I do it without letting nuteral too long . I must shift quickly or the gears will start to turn and grind, then I must use the foot clutch. Water in the oil could be as serious as a bad block cracked at bottom between cylinders or simple as a freeze out plug in the head.

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I agree on the price that Bob stated.  It could be a really easy fix, or a really bad one.   With buying it at an auction and not being able to check things out fully, I would figure on the worst and hopefully it's easier then that.  I think there was a nice earlier D17 on ebay last week, that the opening bid was for 1699 and I don't know if it sold or not.  Was in MO, and needed gauges but the tires, and sheetmetal looked good. 
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I paid 1000 for this one but it need some work too.
 
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Edited by Denis in MI - 27 Feb 2010 at 8:31am
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Aaron, Give Randy Grothoff in Jefferson City,Mo. a call on the D17 Series II that he has for sale for 1699.00 that C huck was talking about. It's a good tractor and you can trust Randy...I've dealt with him for around 10 years and he's always been more than fair with me. His home phone number is: 573-496-3833 and his cell phone number is: 573-690-3033. He's got several pics of it and can get more if you need them.  Rick
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