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john n/il.
Silver Level Joined: 04 Dec 2009 Location: wonderlake ILL. Points: 60 |
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Posted: 24 Feb 2010 at 11:49am |
i have a d17iv that i want to restore .it burns or uses maybe 1 quart of oil when i use it say for six hours.my brother did a compession test on it and all four cylinders read 130psi.the tractor runs good otherwise .just want your opinion on what would you do.overhaul it all the way or just paint it and leave the engine alone for now.thanks john
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Dale H. ECIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Paris, Il Points: 690 |
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I would say it depends on what you plan on using the tractor for, if it the main tractor in a small farming operation then yes overhaul it. With 130psi on all 4 cylinders is good. I would suggest using an oil additive with the next oil change, I have had good luck with Lucas oil additive with some of my old tractors.
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acisbest
Bronze Level Joined: 09 Oct 2009 Location: SE, PA Points: 140 |
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I have the same problem with my HD6G dozer, except that I'm burning about 1 quart per hour.... But, I only use it about 10 hours a year (if that) so I'm OK with spending $30 in oil versus probably $1000 in parts (maybe more) and a lot of time fixing it.
How many hours are you running the IV every year? |
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Gatz in NE
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lincoln, NE Points: 1037 |
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Could be a broken oil-control ring on one or more pistons (though not too likely).
Or valve guides may be worn. If oil consumption is not a concern, then this wouldn't be a major issue either.
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john n/il.
Silver Level Joined: 04 Dec 2009 Location: wonderlake ILL. Points: 60 |
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thanks for the replies .I only use it at my brothers farm ,maybe 50 hours a year .I will try the oil additive this spring.Hopefully it will help.Im also missing the rod,upper position control linkage and agco doesnt stock no more.the three p. wont lower all the way down .
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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John - I'd put a can of SeaFoam in the crankcase with your next oil change. Helped my Gleaner EIII with the 226 gas engine to free up my rings and cut oil consumption after the combine had sat (and was lightly stuck) for 15 years before I bought it. EIII too still burns a little oil but it runs too good otherwise to spend the $$$ to overhaul. I run 15W40 in it but it only is used during summer & fall.
I found out 15W40 is to thick to run in my D17 Series IV that I did give a full overhaul to. It's so tight it really pushes up the oil pressure so much it can blow the oil filter seal when it's cold out. I have to get that checked out again this spring to make sure I don't have an oil-pump bypass issue. For now I'm using 5W30 in the winter and 10W30 in the summer. PM or e-mail my on your 3 point issue and tell me more about what linkage you are missing...I might be able to help you in both cases. Mike |
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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john n/il.
Silver Level Joined: 04 Dec 2009 Location: wonderlake ILL. Points: 60 |
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skyhigh i sent you a pm thursday morn.
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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Just replied with some hopefully good info. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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