Ebay & PayPal Grip, anyone else delt w/ this

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   I sold an offset disk a couple weeks ago on Ebay, the man paid me via PayPal. I got the notice I was paid, but PayPal will hold the money until the gentleman picks up the disk and leaves positive feedback. PayPal told me to have the man leave feedback before he left my place with the disk, that way he can't go home and file a dispute and get his money back.
Second straw; I bought a heat exchanger for my fireplace a couple of days after the disk sold, the seller tells me that his PayPal account is frozen, and he can't process my order or refund my money, and that I have to file a dispute to get PayPal to give me my own money back. PayPal says within a couple of weeks they should be able to solve the claim, meanwhile the have $900 of my money setting their I can't touch, but they have collected their fees, anyway anyone else dealt with this? I am through messing with PayPal, and maybe even Ebay! I've been a member since 96' but I guess they are an extension of the government or something!
Thanks for the vent!
Shawn

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1abfarmer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Texas Points: 49	Post Options Post Reply Quote 1abfarmer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Ebay & PayPal Grip, anyone else delt w/ this Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 10:41pm
	I sold an offset disk a couple weeks ago on Ebay, the man paid me via PayPal. I got the notice I was paid, but PayPal will hold the money until the gentleman picks up the disk and leaves positive feedback. PayPal told me to have the man leave feedback before he left my place with the disk, that way he can't go home and file a dispute and get his money back. Second straw; I bought a heat exchanger for my fireplace a couple of days after the disk sold, the seller tells me that his PayPal account is frozen, and he can't process my order or refund my money, and that I have to file a dispute to get PayPal to give me my own money back. PayPal says within a couple of weeks they should be able to solve the claim, meanwhile the have $900 of my money setting their I can't touch, but they have collected their fees, anyway anyone else dealt with this? I am through messing with PayPal, and maybe even Ebay! I've been a member since 96' but I guess they are an extension of the government or something! Thanks for the vent! Shawn

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Brad-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Hamburg, MN Points: 765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brad-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 10:47pm
	I've already closed both my Ebay and PayPal accounts. If I want to buy something, it's YT's ads or word of mouth or Craig's list somewhere nearby so that I can go look at it and decide for myself whether I want it or not. Ebay was good before they got greedy and fee laden...and don't even get me started on PayPal.
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Osage_Orange Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: SW MO Points: 1593	Post Options Post Reply Quote Osage_Orange Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 10:54pm
	I've reached a point with Ebay & PayPal, that I only buy a few low dollar items on Ebay and I generally use PayPal to pay for it. They've screwed up Ebay from a seller's standpoint so bad that all the seller can do is lose. I used to sell various car parts and farm machinery parts, but no more!
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Butch(OH) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3835	Post Options Post Reply Quote Butch(OH) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 4:50am
	I have also largely quit dealing with Ebay, especialy on higher dollar items. Largely because of the Paypal rip off, partialy beause of all the thieves and their refusal to deal with them. They make money when thieves use the service and in my opinion they only give lip service to doing anything about it. The last straw for me was I sold a saw last fall and put a few extra pics on the ad but not much else extra. Saw sold for like $800 and by the time I paid for the ad and the required Paypal charges they took over $55 from the sale and then kept my money for 10 days before they would release it, pure BS. I realy dont have a problem paying for services rendered but requiring Paypal and taking more of my money simply for jollies then sitting on it for 10 days makes my hackles rise. Rant over.

Brian Jasper co. Ia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian Jasper co. Ia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 6:53am
	I had to cancel a card because of PayPal. Fortunately my bank valued me as a customer and fully reimbursed me from the fraudulent charges. PayPal pretty much told me to eat it. Never again. I seldom buy anything on Ebay anymore. If I do, I always email the seller that U.S. Postal money order is the only way I can pay. Most say no problem.
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weiner43 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Lake City, Mi. Points: 369	Post Options Post Reply Quote weiner43 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 5:44pm
	I`ve never had problems with either one, But I`m sure getting tired of the ebay not for the best changes. Can`t find anything anymore without going thru a whole bunch of hoops to get there, and them wade thru hundreds of stuff that shouldn`t be on the list.
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John (C-IL) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 1654	Post Options Post Reply Quote John (C-IL) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 6:13pm
	I just bought a tractor on ebay. Contacted the seller and arranged for direct payment. I can't believe the ominous warnings I got from ebay over dealing directly with the seller. It was a smooth transaction and a two hour drive to retrieve the tractor, seller is a great guy and I may go back just to see what he has sitting around. I'm with you guys guys on the PITA at ebay and paypal though. If I can't make a simple transaction I don't do it.

GBACBFan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Points: 2662	Post Options Post Reply Quote GBACBFan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 7:31pm
	I still use ebay, but I always ask seller ahead of time if the'll take a Money Order because I won't use PayPal by choice. I have never been turned down, and in fact I frequently get responses from sellers saying what a PITA PayPal is, and they would rather get payment in any other form.
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morton(pa) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lancaster, PA Points: 1234	Post Options Post Reply Quote morton(pa) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 7:55pm
	Ebay warns you about a direct transaction because they want you to use PayPal, which is a company they own.

Dick L Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dick L Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 8:50pm
	I use paypal to get payment for products that I make and sell as well as buy things from ebay. Been several years and several thousand dollars a year and I have yet to have a problem with paypal.