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    Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 8:54pm
 Hello maybe some of you guys can help a new {to selling grain} guy out.  I have been working in the farm business for 40ty years  mostly  asparagus,beef cattle, hay,xmas trees, rye, So I have never sold through an elevator before . this year I planted about an acre of soybeans just to see if my equipment would work {mostly 50ty and 60ty stuff} and planted about  3 acres corn. well i have combined it and took it to the elevator         Q uestions are :  when you get paid  how does that work ? had a misreable year too wet too cool early frost. on my ticket is 25.3 moisture test weight 44.8 seems awfull low.  so I guess I have to tell them when I want to sell . Do they charge storage?  how much shrink? those numbers are on corn. on soy beanstest weight was 56 .0 moisture 14.4  Am planning to rent And plant more acres next year, have to have an excuse to keep buying equipment!!! Thanks steve

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let me see if I understand...

your moisture on corn was  25.3%  and your test weight (weight of a bushel) was 44.8 lbs.?

So, you are saying you sold it to them at 25% moisture?  Our place doesn't take anything over 21%, and anything above 15%, I have to pay for drying.  

They probably are going to charge you for drying the corn down to 15%, unless you sold it for high moisture corn (not sure how that would work).  

So, if you put it in their grain bank, they are going to dry it down to 15% or 15.5% and then charge you per bushel for drying.  I think I get charged $0.08 per 3% moisture, per bushel.  So, if it is 21% moisture, and they dry it down to 15%, then I am paying for 6% drying, or $0.16 per bushel.   Then, if I want to put it int eh grain bank, I pay them $0.05 per bushel per month, until I want to sell.   So, if the price is $3.30 right now, and I have it 21% moisture, I am offered $3.14 per bushel, or if I think the price will go up, I tell them to hold it. Say it goes up to $3.60 in 6 months.  Now, I tell them I want to sell, and they subtract drying cost(16 cents), and 6 months storage(30 cents) and then give me $3.60 minus those costs, which would be 46 cents.  So, I would still get $3.14 per bushel.   Now, if the price falls, not only do I loose the additional price deficit, but I also am still charged storage.  So, theoretically, you could loose.   But, if yo follow price trends throughout the year, you will see that there isn't that big of a market change to justify the storage.    EXCEPT...   If you harvested 150 bpa corn in November 2007 (like I did) and paid the 16 cents per bushel for drying, and didn't sell then, when the price was around $3.70 per bushel, but paid 5 cents per month for storage for 8 months until June 2008, and had 40 cents per bushel invested in storage, and then sold at the current market price of $7.30 per bushel, you would have received $6.74 per bushel for your corn.  In other words, you do nothing but let it ride, and get almost double the money.  Assuming you had the foresite to know the market would explode...

Not sure if any of that helped...

I'm still bitter about missing out on that $7 corn, especially now with it being down below $4 again.
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Thank you for your help, that explained alot  ok one question . A bushel of corn  weight is 56 lbs.  test wt. was 44 .8 when they figure bushels what weight gets used? I have been checking this and the old forum  almost every day for a few years alot of good information has been absorbed. thanks all  steve

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Let me see if I can do the math...

So, you said your test weight was 44.8 lbs to the bushel(1.24xxx cubic feet)

Now, you said your moisture was 25.3%

So if your test weight is 44.8 lbs, and they allow 15% moisture-  25.3-15= 10.3% total moisture. 

Then, you have to account for shrinkage, which is a factor of 1.176 at 15%.  Total loss for corn that is 25% and dried down to 15% would then be 11.76%.  The more shrinkage you have, the higher your test weight would be.  As corn dries, it shrinks and dry corn will pack tighter than wet corn, so, with lower moisture, your test weights will increase.  Also, test weight is a product of corn hybrid traits, so when selecting a hybrid, you can look for one with a higher test weight. 


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I never gave much consideration to test weight until this year.  We usually run around 58-60.  This year I was 54-55.  I couldn't figure out why I was heaping the truck up and only getting 510 on it.  The past years it would have been over 550.  I then took out a test plot that had a bunch of 61lb corn.  That truck load had 572 bushels on it.  What a difference that made.  Too bad I didn't plant more of those numbers.  Seed price was comparable also.  But next year could be different. If I could only find a good crystal ball to peer into the future.  

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The big key is to talk to the local elevator where you took your grain and they should be able to explain to you exactly what your costs, discounts and options would be and when they will be incured. In fact, your elevator should have a policy sheet that they can give you for all of these things.  Elevators can only legally hold grain in an "open" position for so long before they have to position it by either having you sell it or by putting it into storage.  During harvest time, it may be a shorter window that they allow you. 

As for test weight, the USDA standard for corn is 56 lbs and for beans is 60 lbs and those are the factors used to determine how many bushels you hauled in. On your scale ticket should be the net weight of corn that you hauled in, take that divided by 56 and that will be the total wet bushels you hauled in.  The total wet bushels will be shrunk down to dry bushels as explained above.  They may or may not discount you on test weight as corn will pick up test weight as it is dried but that all depends on how it is dried etc.
 
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Chart from elevator in southern Wi 25.3 moist cost $.525 per bu  you would get paid for 85.3% of your corn (shrink) test weight chart goes to 46lbs would cost you $.20 per bu you get billed for the wet bushel and paid on the dry, storage extra
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