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how to change wd from 6volt to 12 volt.

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    Posted: 30 Nov 2009 at 4:22am
I want to change are wd from 6 volt to 12 volt and I need to know what needs to be installed and changed over. thanks guys.
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I made this change with my B, but did not change from points to electronic module.  I used a CS 130 alternator (voltage regulator no longer needed), 12v coil and lights.  I also replaced the amp gage with a volt gage.  Something to stop the current flow to the alternator when the engine is stopped will be needed to keep the battery from discharging (I used a small signal light wired into the exciter wire line).  I kept the 6v starter, but had it thoroughly checked before using it.  I also changed to an electric solenoid switch for engaging the starter (more safe than a pull rod around kids).  Since I had to entirely rewire it, I chose to use neg. ground.  Here is a picture someone had previously posted.
 
 
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I might should have said that the diagram shows a resistor and 6v coil.  It is not clearly marked on the drawing. Sorry.  Steve at B&B has great setups for this conversion as well as instructions and extensive knowledge as to what it takes to make the change safely and trouble free.
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I used one of of Steve's kits, it is really slick, comes with complete instructions and it totally complete right down to the silicone grease for the connections.
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My question is WHY?  Use the correct battery cables, and keep them clean and you are fine.  I can start my WD45 at -20 on six volts.
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I've got a nearly brand new ballast resistor available if you decide to go that way.  You can have it for $5 plus shipping.  I decided not to use it after I bought it. 
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If you have a generator put in 12 volt battery, change light blubs and you are ready to go. if you have an alt. you need to put a resistor between battery and coil and you are ready to use.  Don't need to do anything else
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On my post I said if you have an alt you need a resistor in the line from battery to coil. You only need this if you don't have a mag. Generator or alt. makes no difference

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I have always been told that the coil voltage rating needed to be the same as the battery, or if 12v battery use a resistor in line between the battery and 6v coil.  What about it from the electrical guru's??
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As John mentioned, we offer a complete 12V conversion kit for the WD/WD45 in kit form with step by step instructions. Gives you eveything needed for wiring along with the correct switches & Voltmeter. We also offer an optional frame rail Alternator mount to position and dial in the Alternator to the engine. Drop us a line or give us a call. Be glad to help you out.  Thank you John for the mention!
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Stan, the 6v VS 12v question came up on the "N" Ford tractor board some time ago. Somone did the math to figure out voltage vs. amperage on a coil so the the points would live. I'm sure they came up with a coil primary circuit of 3 to 4 ohms that would keep the amps down to where the points would last. I'd like to say the amps were in the 1-2 range. Can't remember for sure.
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