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All Crop 60 upper drapper repair?
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    Posted: 10 Jan 2025 at 6:04pm
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I found an all crop on marketplace I am interested in. The upper draper seems to have a big tear in the top of it. The current owner says it could be repaired with gorilla tape. Would this be okay? If not how much is a replacement? Other than that it seems to be in okay condition. 
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I don't know how big this tear is and how much you plan to actually use the combine but the Gorilla tape seems kinda sketchy. Surely it can have a patch sewn on it depending on location. Ryan
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Gorilla tape isn't going to work. Just get a new one. The aggravation of a ruined draper when you have a field ready to go, is not worth the savings.
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Most any good upholstery shops can patch or repair them if they’re not too bad or a new one can be bought from https://www.americasbelting.com/
190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66 and a whole mess of equipment.
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I think Tom sells them on allcropharvestor.com
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I remember mom stitching on the 60 after a day in the field.....
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This is the tear in it, I see a new replacement one on Americas Seed and Belting cost nearly $300 without shipping, allcropharvester website isnt working at the moment, can this tear be repaired? Is there some sort of upholstery tape with contact cement I can put on it? Would sewing work on this big of a tear? 
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If you replace it, it would seam to make more sense, pardon the pun...  Looks pretty frayed and flimsy, to be repairing.  JMHOWink
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And what are your intentions for this old combine? Are you just playing with it like most of us do? There could be more issues with a 70 year old combine then just the obvious. Investing money starts to become a issue. Ryan
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The rip is in a direction the patch will have low stress. I'd try a repair first.

Loosen the tension and find painters drop cloth from the hardware store. Some are blue jeans like canvas. 9x12ft for $20ish. Or old blue jeans. 

Know anyone with an industrial or furniture fabric sewing machine? Or a 1950s "black iron" domestic machine? Might find one on Craigslist or Facebook marketplace for under $50 in working condition, since they are as rugged as any industrial. Sailright sells a modern heavy duty machine for sail making/repair but they are quite expensive ($800ish?)

I'd coat the new canvas repair with oil based paint. Converting the repair to "oil cloth" canvas.

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It would look entertaining to glue a half pair of jeans to it!  which brings up the question of which jeans are the toughest?Wink
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Originally posted by Ryan Renko Ryan Renko wrote:

And what are your intentions for this old combine? Are you just playing with it like most of us do? There could be more issues with a 70 year old combine then just the obvious. Investing money starts to become a issue. Ryan
 
Id like to use it for harvesting only a couple acres a year for field peas, wheat, and oats. No more than 5 acres of year
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Originally posted by jvin248 jvin248 wrote:

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The rip is in a direction the patch will have low stress. I'd try a repair first.

Loosen the tension and find painters drop cloth from the hardware store. Some are blue jeans like canvas. 9x12ft for $20ish. Or old blue jeans. 

Know anyone with an industrial or furniture fabric sewing machine? Or a 1950s "black iron" domestic machine? Might find one on Craigslist or Facebook marketplace for under $50 in working condition, since they are as rugged as any industrial. Sailright sells a modern heavy duty machine for sail making/repair but they are quite expensive ($800ish?)

I'd coat the new canvas repair with oil based paint. Converting the repair to "oil cloth" canvas.

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So put the new material over the tear and sew it in, then paint it with oil paint?
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

It would look entertaining to glue a half pair of jeans to it!  which brings up the question of which jeans are the toughest?Wink

My experience, ll bean is the best, bought some on sale and lasted me around 4 years, mostly last me 1 1/2 years before getting holes.LOL

this'll really put it to the test
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If you could find an old canvas tarp, that material is really tough, if you are going to patch it.
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In the tarp/canvas department of any farm/fleet store, there is a product called tear grease. If you pull the canvas out, and do a really good job of gluing a small strip of canvas on, over the rip with this tear grease, it'll last for a long time.
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I have used pieces from another old canvas and glue them with rubber cement both on my 66 and 12A. So far so good.
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I still remember my Dad complaining in the early 60's that a set of canvases for the combine cost $50 
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Originally posted by Gatz in NE Gatz in NE wrote:

I still remember my Dad complaining in the early 60's that a set of canvases for the combine cost $50 
Probably get a set of car tires for that kind of money! LOL I have no idea but that was a lot back then.
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I should have a new aftermarket (spencer) and a maybe a couple of used.  Thanks...Dale
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