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Calvin Schmidt 
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Posted: 23 Nov 2016 at 8:21pm |
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I acquired a Genset powered by a 11000 MKII engine 516 cu.in. (690 hr) Have somebody that is thinking about making a pulling engine out of it. I have seen a D-21 puller with a 516. Has anyone here used one? To me they seem like a bit of a boat anchor.
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Dans 7080
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Posted: 23 Nov 2016 at 8:56pm |
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Most places won't let you use the 516 because it wasn't a factory engine or a replacement engine in a tractor.
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KevinON
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Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 7:38am |
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Calvin, they use them in Ohio in the Classic Super Stock class down there. It is in their rules that that engine is allowed for AC. Gets them closer to the 531ci limit that they have. They work very good. Cheers.
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DarrylinWA
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Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 10:55am |
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Karlen Motor sports builds them. Gary Karlen in Ohio. Super strong bottom end.
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B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 6:28am |
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I'm told that the flywheel from a 426 will fit the 516. Don't know for sure, but that's what I've been told. You'll surely gain 300 to 400 lbs of weight switching, won't you ??
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DrAllis
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Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 6:37am |
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Well, I got my own curiosity up.....1425 lbs for a basic 426 and 2300 lbs for the 516 !!!! 875 lbs difference according to my spec books.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 10:51am |
yup flywheel uses same rear main seal and wear ring,,, as the 426 - flywheel a tad larger..
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Larry W.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 12:27am |
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Dinosaur of a motor really, if youre going to pull, step up to a detroit block, or a Sisu, both far better then the 516
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Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 10:18am |
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How much is gained by the Detroit?
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Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 10:43am |
 DarrylinWA wrote:
Karlen Motor sports builds them. Gary Karlen in Ohio. Super strong bottom end.
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Do you know what they get the head to flow? Maybe Allis got lucky in the port layout, or there is plenty of cast in the critical areas. From pictures ive seen the ports look big enough.
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DarrylinWA
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Posted: 29 Nov 2016 at 6:41am |
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Gary puts on the older heads from the non turbo engines and then does a lot of porting. Said the flow was ALOT better after this.
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B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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Larry W.
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Posted: 29 Nov 2016 at 8:43pm |
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The detroit is better, crank is superior, roller lifter block, accepts IH heads, will make 600 + ci easy, easy to find parts for, and most important, it's an actual recognized upgrade motor, no worries about getting kicked out after dumping all the money into it!
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Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 7:53am |
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The reason it is used in Ohio is because the rules, I believe, require the block to be AC, or original manufacturer. I'd have to read the rules again to be sure.
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