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19856020 
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 6:31pm |
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I have a deutz allis 1920 same as simplicity sunstar or agco allis 1920 steering cylinder is leaking internally ,steering is all over the place ,hard to control . anyway apparently they are non rebuildable and new one is $400 anyone know an alternative or is that my best option
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DSeries4
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 9:03pm |
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Take it to a good local hydraulic shop. I am sure they could rebuild it. Never heard of one that is non rebuildable.
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 9:08pm |
 DSeries4 wrote:
Never heard of one that is non rebuildable.
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John Deere couldn't rebuild the header lift cylinders on the L3. Or they said they couldn't. Maybe they just didn't want that amazing Silver combine on their lot, for fear they'd be flooded with buyers!
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talntedmrgreen
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Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 7:25am |
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These cylinders are commonly about $150, used, on ebay and elsewhere. My hydro shop here gets about $200 for a cylinder rebuild that size, after claiming they need to make a new rod. Careful as you ask around, and get a quote before they do the work.
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Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 3:52pm |
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It sure looks like its non rebuildable there is nothing to take apart on rod end and outer housing is welded like that's how it was assembled. Also service manual and parts manual both state "must replace entire unit" If there is something im not seeing advice would be appreciated.
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JoeO(CMO)
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Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 6:20pm |
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some of those cylinders will come apart after removing the fittings from the cylinder
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Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 11:29am |
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A hydro shop would put it on the lathe and cut the welded end off, then reweld when done.
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Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 11:30am |
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Some cylinders can be disassembled by removing one of the fittings, and popping a retaining ring off the end of the shaft. It will then slide out. The ring 'snaps' back on, when you slide the rod back in.
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Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 3:38pm |
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Are you sure it's in the cylinder? The control vale run by the steering wheel could be the problem.
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