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coggonobrien
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Location: Eastern Iowa Points: 1820 |
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Posted: 10 Nov 2014 at 9:01am |
What is differant? Just carb? Manifold the same?
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den/southern illinoi
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Sparta, Illinoi Points: 1988 |
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I only had a 616 for a short time when I bought a 720 and 616 from the same guy. Sold the 616 to finance fixing up the 720. These are what I remember as differences between the 616 to the 620/720.
The carb is differenct as you said. The air cleaner is different. Of course the horsepower is different. I'm guessing that there may be more differences (besides decals and what I mentioned) but I do not know any other than what I listed. Den |
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coggonobrien
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is the air cleaner different simply due to the different carb size?
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coggonobrien
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good somebody post an up close of the air cleaner on the cckb and also the carb without the cleaner?
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AcFordHawk
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Boone, IA Points: 225 |
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616 CCKA:
620/720 CKB: |
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coggonobrien
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Good deal looks like all cckb Manifold are the same
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Tracy Martin TN
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The CCKA carb mounts to top of manifold. The CCKB mounts to side of manifold. HTH Tracy
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BrianC
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On the 620/720, what is the cylindrical black part between the
manifold, carb and air cleaner. Maybe a crankcase scavenger gizmo? Then look at the complex 90 degree formed hose connecting the air cleaner and intake side of the carb. Can that be purchased new? And last, is the air cleaner a little on the small side? |
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Tracy Martin TN
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Yes and yes. Hold onto your billfold! Tracy
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coggonobrien
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coggonobrien
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Dan(NE)
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I need the RH engine cover for my AC 720 with the Onan 19.5 HP CCBK engine. Please e-mail me.
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coggonobrien
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Dan(NE)
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I think that is the cover I need. I will send you a photo of my engine in a couple of days. Please e-mail me the price and your e-mail address and phone number to dan.monaghan@yahoo.com
My engine number is Onan CCKB-MS / 2733J 12V Serial No. 0874746485 Thanks. |
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11820 |
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Some of the wiring is a little different also. Routed and color coded differently on some circuitry between the 616 and 620/720. Wiring and color coding the same on the 620/720. Seems like the 616 is the morphidite of the three.
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HudCo
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my boss [the wife] said i could order parts main and rod brgs. for my ccka in the 616 but what makes the rated horse power diff between the ccka cckb i know i asked once before its not just the carb intake aand heaveyer flywheel?
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Tracy Martin TN
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I think the RPM's were increased also. Tracy
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HudCo
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the gizmo isjust a crankcase breather probley the easest piece to find used
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