feedbeater fingers springs for clutch

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where does a man have to go to get this spring or is there a better thing out there to use than these or do you even need the for a pretty well stock tractor with the pump turned all the way up and no leaf spring in it, the clutch thats in it is slipping in 8 grear pd is good checked pressure on it set at 300 psi at 1200 rpms , i have a 4 pad  clutch to go in it with the same pressure plate stock what will that hold as far as hp, will it hold making 5 and 6 gear pulls? like for some wisdom in this area 

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jwbigbaddodge540hp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 28 Feb 2015 Location: melbourne AR Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote jwbigbaddodge540hp Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: feedbeater fingers springs for clutch Posted: 17 Apr 2015 at 8:27pm
	where does a man have to go to get this spring or is there a better thing out there to use than these or do you even need the for a pretty well stock tractor with the pump turned all the way up and no leaf spring in it, the clutch thats in it is slipping in 8 grear pd is good checked pressure on it set at 300 psi at 1200 rpms , i have a 4 pad clutch to go in it with the same pressure plate stock what will that hold as far as hp, will it hold making 5 and 6 gear pulls? like for some wisdom in this area

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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20528	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2015 at 7:45am
	You'll need a total of six- 71178758 springs from an AGCO dealer who sells Gleaner combines. They need to have 1 to 1 1/2 coils removed from one end with a grinder. Install each spring along side of each pressure plate release finger by dropping them inside of the existing springs. Flywheel should be resurfaced and depth be at 1.437" or a little less. I usually shoot for 1.400" when using reman clutch parts. Four pad clutch disc is standard equipment. There are large 4-pad discs and small 4-pad discs and there are 6-pad discs. For HP holding you want the smaller 4-pads as a rule. If you're testing your clutch with the brakes locked and full throttle road gear, you're being kind of mean to the clutch. With these 6 extra springs, don't start the engine while depressing the clutch and don't hold the clutch down any longer than needed. I'd have Power Director clutch set at 350 psi at full throttle and be SURE the linkage is going 100% full stroke on the valve spool.

jwbigbaddodge540hp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 28 Feb 2015 Location: melbourne AR Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote jwbigbaddodge540hp Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2015 at 8:53pm
	Thank you Dr allis for the help I had seen you talk about it in other post but couldnt find an info on it, will i have to take the pressure plate apart to put them in? if so not a big deal i have my own shop with press lathes and mills not much i cant do, the clutch i have is the smaller 4 pad you can get, the clutch thats in it will just slip in 8th gear taking off, i havent been try to kill it like some people do, my pd is set at 300 psi heres my question how much it to much and what happen if you get to high? thanks agian James

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20528	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2015 at 9:13pm
	Pressure plate has to be put in a press and disassembled to change or add springs. Too much pressure in a Power Director clutch will explode it hydraulically. At what pressure is this??? I don't know for sure, but I'd guess anything over 400 psi is asking for trouble.

jwbigbaddodge540hp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 28 Feb 2015 Location: melbourne AR Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote jwbigbaddodge540hp Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Apr 2015 at 8:09am
	Thank you Dr allis for the help got springs order from Schmidt and sons I would highly recommend them to any one, Dr allis what would happen if you stared it with the clutch pushed in on accident ? can a automotive machine shop that can do fly wheels do the flywheel with it being dished? any one know never had to have a tractor fly wheel groung be for. thanks for the help James

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20528	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Apr 2015 at 9:06am
	Avoid starting engine with clutch pushed in. If you don't want to follow instructions, fine. Then, if your engine thrust bearing is worn out a couple years down the road, you'll know why I said don't do that. Any GOOD machine shop should be able to regrind your flywheel without a hassle.