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steve fischer
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jul 2011 Location: sleepy eye mn Points: 971 |
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Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 10:13pm |
i have a number of them f/s make great puller blocks thanks steve 507 766 0551
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bigcountry48
Orange Level Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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What's the difference between that and a regular block? I'm just asking out of ignorance, I'm looking for a block I can put a 5 inch piston in. Does this block have enough room to have a sleeve that big forced down into it?
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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steve fischer
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jul 2011 Location: sleepy eye mn Points: 971 |
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they have more room on the bottom for longer stroke,it like a wd45 block but still has plate behind oil filter for the stock look,top is the same thanks
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AaronSEIA
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2551 |
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Never heard of one. Was it a casting difference on a few years of WD blocks, or something else all together?
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bigcountry48
Orange Level Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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Ok, that'd what I need for the bottom end, is it any bigger on top? Most importantly could I fit a 5 inch piston down in it? I'm ok with removing block material, but is there enough there for a 5 inch piston?
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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Charlie175
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6358 |
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wow a 5" bore!
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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BennyLumpkin
Orange Level Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Location: Centre Hall, PA Points: 2657 |
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I've got alot of engines...where is this number found? What years were they in?
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1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
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AaronSEIA
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2551 |
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If the top side of the block is the same as a regular WD, I don't see how you'd get 5" pistons in the block. What is there, 3/4" between pistons on a stock 4" bore? Still waiting to hear more details on when these blocks were in which WD's
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bigcountry48
Orange Level Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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Ok Thanks that's what I needed to here. Does anyone know which block had the wider top end?
Edited by bigcountry48 - 14 Feb 2015 at 6:56pm |
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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BennyLumpkin
Orange Level Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Location: Centre Hall, PA Points: 2657 |
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None had a wider top that I know of. The same heads swap from 201-226 as far as I know. I'm sure something can be done to put 5" pistons in a 226 or 201 but it'll involve hard blocking. You'd be into water jackets and more I'm sure. Lots of ways to build power without going 5". Runs in my mind 4 9/16 is max bore you can get and I think that was custom made sleeves. It's alot of work. Not saying it can't be done...anything can if you waste enough money.
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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
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bigcountry48
Orange Level Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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Ok, I'll go for a 4.5 inch piston then, that should give me plenty of room and a bigger piston.
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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d17brown
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: farley iowa Points: 1689 |
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I have a 4 and 7/8 piston and 6 inch stroke,block needs boring and sleeves need to be turned
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bigcountry48
Orange Level Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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Where did you get your pistons? I only plan on doing a 5.5 inch stroke. Also where did you get your sleeves?
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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Bill_MN
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Points: 1466 |
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Wow, is it worth it to push these blocks that far? Turning sleeves and removing metal from rods and cranks for clearance things start getting thin while at the same time putting more stress on parts with high CR and RPMs. I can understand keeping up with competition just wondering if you guys expect these engines to last more than a couple pulls?
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1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow
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AaronSEIA
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2551 |
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That depends on what you run out of first. If you spin out, not much engine damage. If you power out, then you have problems. Look at the big boys. They take a 426 AC or 414 Binder, run them to 600+ cubes, add 2 or 3 MORE turbos, and about 10x the stock horsepower. If all goes well they can get a lot of hooks out of one engine.
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bigcountry48
Orange Level Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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Not all that much wear on a motor I'm only running maybe an hour once a month, and yes as long as your spinning out your not putting too much stress on the motor.
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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steve fischer
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jul 2011 Location: sleepy eye mn Points: 971 |
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wow was gone for weekend, the -40 block was in the late 53 wds they have a wide block on bottom on the side with out cam,if you ever tried to put wd45 crank in a wc the rods almost hit the side,this block is wider in that area,so if you can get a 6 in stroke in a wd45 it will also go in this block and looks like a wc ,in my area we call when cheater blocks,but legal
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Larry(OH)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shreve Ohio Points: 1577 |
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How much are they?
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'40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20551 |
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Those late model "WD" blocks are also stronger than older blocks. Above the center main is filled in with cast iron. Old blocks are hollow. WD-45 blocks are probably still a bit stronger with no side plate.
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steve fischer
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jul 2011 Location: sleepy eye mn Points: 971 |
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$250 for bare block thanks Steve
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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With that much bore and stroke, there would be no need to up the Compression Ratio or the rpm's I know some guys are running stock rpm and normal factory compression ratios (LP) on Minnie Moe engines and getting 150 HP on the dyno. They do have a bit more room inside than a 201 block since some are up over 800 cu in, in the 350 ( or whatever it was) block. I've seen the inside of a couple. Allison pistons, billet rods, the cam ground half way in two for rods to clear. They run 3 or 4 seasons without having a wrench put to em. and look totally stock on the outside. |
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Juiceman
Silver Level Joined: 26 Aug 2013 Location: West Virginia Points: 110 |
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I think having this block for a wd would be handy if your club is really strict. We only went to 5.5 stroke, but kept the stock 45 block in our wd45. It is nice because we can now pull anywhere in the country. Throw the 28's back on and be Div 1 or farm stock legal.
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