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    Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 10:13pm
i have a number of them f/s make great puller blocks thanks steve 507 766 0551
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What's the difference between that and a regular block? I'm just asking out of ignorance, I'm looking for a block I can put a 5 inch piston in. Does this block have enough room to have a sleeve that big forced down into it?
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they have more room on the bottom for longer stroke,it like a wd45 block but still has plate behind oil filter for the stock look,top is the same thanks
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Never heard of one.  Was it a casting difference on a few years of WD blocks, or something else all together?
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Ok, that'd what I need for the bottom end, is it any bigger on top? Most importantly could I fit a 5 inch piston down in it? I'm ok with removing block material, but is there enough there for a 5 inch piston?
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wow a 5" bore!
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I've got alot of engines...where is this number found? What years were they in?
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If the top side of the block is the same as a regular WD, I don't see how you'd get 5" pistons in the block.  What is there, 3/4" between pistons on a stock 4" bore?  Still waiting to hear more details on when these blocks were in which WD's
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Ok Thanks that's what I needed to here. Does anyone know which block had the wider top end?

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None had a wider top that I know of. The same heads swap from 201-226 as far as I know. I'm sure something can be done to put 5" pistons in a 226 or 201 but it'll involve hard blocking. You'd be into water jackets and more I'm sure. Lots of ways to build power without going 5". Runs in my mind 4 9/16 is max bore you can get and I think that was custom made sleeves. It's alot of work. Not saying it can't be done...anything can if you waste enough money.
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Ok, I'll go for a 4.5 inch piston then, that should give me plenty of room and a bigger piston.
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I have a 4 and 7/8 piston and 6 inch stroke,block needs boring and sleeves need to be turned
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Where did you get your pistons? I only plan on doing a 5.5 inch stroke. Also where did you get your sleeves?
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Wow, is it worth it to push these blocks that far? Turning sleeves and removing metal from rods and cranks for clearance things start getting thin while at the same time putting more stress on parts with high CR and RPMs. I can understand keeping up with competition just wondering if you guys expect these engines to last more than a couple pulls?
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That depends on what you run out of first.  If you spin out, not much engine damage.  If you power out, then you have problems. Look at the big boys.  They take a 426 AC or 414 Binder, run them to 600+ cubes, add 2 or 3 MORE turbos, and about 10x the stock horsepower.  If all goes well they can get a lot of hooks out of one engine.
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Not all that much wear on a motor I'm only running maybe an hour once a month, and yes as long as your spinning out your not putting too much stress on the motor.
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wow was gone for weekend, the -40 block was in the late 53 wds they have a wide block on bottom on the side with out cam,if you ever tried to put wd45 crank in a wc the rods almost hit the side,this block is wider in that area,so if you can get a 6 in stroke in a wd45 it will also go in this block and looks like a wc ,in my area we call when cheater blocks,but legal
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How much are they?
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Those late model "WD" blocks are also stronger than older blocks. Above the center main is filled in with cast iron. Old blocks are hollow. WD-45 blocks are probably still a bit stronger with no side plate.
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$250 for bare block thanks Steve  
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Originally posted by Bill_MN Bill_MN wrote:

Wow, is it worth it to push these blocks that far? Turning sleeves and removing metal from rods and cranks for clearance things start getting thin while at the same time putting more stress on parts with high CR and RPMs. I can understand keeping up with competition just wondering if you guys expect these engines to last more than a couple pulls?

 With that much bore and stroke, there would be no need to up the Compression Ratio or the rpm's I know some guys are running stock rpm and normal factory compression ratios (LP) on Minnie Moe engines and getting 150 HP on the dyno. They do have a bit more room inside than a 201 block since some are up over 800 cu in, in the 350 ( or whatever it was) block.
 I've seen the inside of a couple. Allison pistons, billet rods, the cam ground half way in two for rods to clear. They run 3 or 4 seasons without having a wrench put to em. and look totally stock on the outside.
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I think having this block for a wd would be handy if your club is really strict. We only went to 5.5 stroke, but kept the stock 45 block in our wd45. It is nice because we can now pull anywhere in the country. Throw the 28's back on and be Div 1 or farm stock legal.
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