This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Construction and other equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


HD5G project has to go

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
darrel in ND View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Hebron, ND
Points: 8634
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darrel in ND Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: HD5G project has to go
    Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 6:48am
So, I brought an HD5G track loader about 7-8 years ago for 300 bucks, thinking that all it needed was steering clutches. Guess hind sight is 20-20, because at the time, I could have hauled it 5 miles from the auction sale sight to the scrap yard, and sold it for $1,600. That's what I should have done. But I got it running, and it ran good, just couldn't steer it. Went in a straight line without any indication of deeper problems then steering clutches. And having replaced steering clutches in a 5 once before, figured I could get er done. So I ordered of $2K worth of the bi-metalic steering clutch plates, the thin spacers, new springs, and brake shoes. Once I got it lined up straight with the door of my quonset, it backed right in under it's own power. Things went south in a hurry though on the left side. Sometime during clutch bolt removal, that final drive seized up. Upon further inspection, everything on that side, bearings and all, were full of rust. I started replacing bearings in the pinion shaft, then realized that intermediate shaft and sprocket shaft bearings were rusted up too. Got as far as to split the chain on that side, and that's where it's been for the last 6 years, just taking up shop space. That's about the time I took a job off the farm too, so time to work on it is nonexistent. Was sizing it up Sunday afternoon, and finally sucumbed to the fact that I will not live long enough to see it finished. Looks like the rails have to come off to get the sprocket off, and some previous owner has welded the track adjuster/track releases to the rails. So yeah, the rose colored glasses are gone now. So I guess, that where I am heading to with this long winded post, is that I can't quite bring myself to haul it to the scrap yard. Can't help but think someone out there might have a desire for it, if nothing else, for parts. The engine ran good. All of my clutch parts are not lost, they are not in the machine yet, and can be used elsewhere. I kind of hate to just pull it out and park it somewhere out of the way in my yard, because I already have more of that kind of stuff then I need already, and am trying to go the other way. So if anyone wants it the way it sits, come and get it. If you want to continue on with it and rebuild it, we can work out a deal on all the clutch parts that I have. I think that I still want a track loader sometime in the near future, but I just don't have the time to put the work into one like this one will require. Tears me up to give up on a project, but reality has set in
Darrel
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
Codger View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 23 Dec 2020
Location: Utopia
Points: 2041
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Codger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 8:20am
I hate reading scenarios such as this as seen it many times over. I have several trucks given to me under much the same subject. In my application can't have too many 60+ year old parts no longer made, but I'm not ready to give up on things yet. 

I hope you and another party can get together to recoup some of your loss which could be considered somewhat tangible. Seems to be several of this series tractor available and I would consider breaking it apart to use as a donor for another. This one doesn't eat and won't hurt anything being covered out in the yard till another is located.

My shop is remote from my house by two miles citing my propensity to collect "junk" according to my wife too.
That's All Folks!
Back to Top
Les Kerf View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 08 May 2020
Location: Idaho
Points: 783
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Les Kerf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 10:32am
Bummer Cry
North Dakota is just too far from Idaho.

Back to Top
Coke-in-MN View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Afton MN
Points: 41600
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Coke-in-MN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 2:14pm
I had bought a D6 9U from local construction contractor and figured it was just what I needed - well after replacing front idler and a few other small things I used it for about a year , then decided as it had low oil pressure to check crank bearings . 
 one journal was in the look of a branch with bark attached . lapped it smooth with emery paper and wet or dry paper to at least a smooth feel , then shimmed the bearing to fit . Figured I would do more in replacing engine later , then transmission broke , replaced that , then track pins were worn , so put D5 segmented sprockets on it and D5 track after welding D6 spokes to new D5 sprocket rings , well next side bearings on ring gear let gear slip out and took the output shaft of transmission teeth off pinion gear , 
 Started working on it and figured more money was not the answer so traded it for a HD4 to small equipment repair place . Still wonder if that was another money pit as that got traded off years later for a New Holland 785 skid loader .
  Good intent seems to be expensive lessons . Though a 1955 HD5G I bought in 1972 I still have - but engine overhauled , sprocket replaced , new track , HD11 ceramic clutch in steering , ceramic main clutch , and other repairs have been added over it's life .
Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."
Back to Top
orangeman View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 1764
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote orangeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 7:49am
Darrell:  I was following along on this project and if memory serves remember you had picked it up some time ago.  I would guess a lot of us here like the AC 5G design and can certainly see its usefulness that it could bring once up and running and back in shape.   Although this project didn't come through the way you had hoped - am certain that the knowledge gained by working through all its issues from a mechanical standpoint is probably worth way more than if you had signed up for a mechanical engineering course, so not all was lost.  I know that doesn't change the outcome so wishing you better sailing ahead! ~ Respectfully, Orangeman
Back to Top
darrel in ND View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Hebron, ND
Points: 8634
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darrel in ND Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2024 at 9:26pm
I'm going to refresh this thread a little. I still haven't done anything with this HD5G, but an additional idea I had would be that if someone knew of a machine like this that needed an engine, I would be interested in talking. Engine in mine does seem to be a good runner, so if it could find a useful home, that would be a win. Thanks
Darrel
Back to Top
Noah View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 22 May 2024
Location: Colorado
Points: 31
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Noah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 May 2024 at 7:44am
Darrel, I just got an old HD5G in trade and may need some parts, not exactly sure yet what I need. What is the condition of your idlers and UC? Unfortunately I am in Colorado so it may be hard to ship any parts but if any of the parts can be used, I would hate to see them scrapped.


I believe the biggest issue to be the loose track on the right hand side, which appears to have a different idler. Im really not sure how much adjustment is left in the slide bar. Both sides appear to be at the same spot.

Thanks

Edited by Noah - 23 May 2024 at 7:50am
Back to Top
Coke-in-MN View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Afton MN
Points: 41600
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Coke-in-MN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 May 2024 at 10:44am
My idea was always to get unstilted WC and repower with a 2-71 Detroit , picked up later WC - well after 5 years of setting and never doing anything  sold that and bought 3 more HD5 machines - all them went down the road also . 
 So have my HD5G I bought in 1972 still here , a 2-71 core engine , and few HD5 parts left .
Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."
Back to Top
darrel in ND View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Hebron, ND
Points: 8634
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darrel in ND Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2024 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by Noah Noah wrote:

Darrel, I just got an old HD5G in trade and may need some parts, not exactly sure yet what I need. What is the condition of your idlers and UC? Unfortunately I am in Colorado so it may be hard to ship any parts but if any of the parts can be used, I would hate to see them

scrapped.

Most likely won't be scrapping anything. I'm still in a bit of a tailspin as to what's going to happen with it. Give it a little more time, as if 6 years wasn't enough.
Darrel


I believe the biggest issue to be the loose track on the right hand side, which appears to have a different idler. Im really not sure how much adjustment is left in the slide bar. Both sides appear to be at the same spot.

Thanks
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.098 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum