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How screwed am I on this Allis WD45 block?

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    Posted: 18 Nov 2024 at 1:26pm
What are the chances that both sleeve rings have failed on sleeve 3 & 4 and the block is not cracked?

Edited by twinson - 18 Nov 2024 at 1:35pm
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What are the odds that four Orings have failed on TWO sleeves exactly in the center of the block right where the blocks are known to crack ??
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  This block is junk then correct?

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Kinda looks like the one cylinder has been leaking for awhile according to the rust around the sleeve at the block. Did you pressure test it? 
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Probably junk.
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Pressured up to 15psi and started dripping.  Lost pressure within 5 minutes.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC720Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2024 at 6:59am
It may be junk but the only way to know is to tear it apart. A few hours of work and you will know.
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I have a bare block with no cracks between the cylinders if you are interested.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2024 at 8:03am
has anyone ever tried any BLOCK SEALER in this application... Either something like BARS that you pour into the antifreeze and run it... or a liquid you pour in around the liners and let it harden around the base ? ( when the block is empty and head is off )..
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HudCo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2024 at 10:13am
i would like to see bad the pitting is right around the orings  my series 4 engine  block my might be to bad to keep mine sealed  sealed up , dont know if any thing can be done down in the bottom of the counter bores
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sugarmaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2024 at 8:42pm
twinson,
 BTDT. 
It sounds like your pressure test found the issue. Were you getting coolant in the oil? Gray foamy stuff under the valve cover? 
I had to replace the block in my 45 project. Just lucked out and had a rebuild-able block sitting in the garage. It was not a cheap date, but nothing is now days. You might find a running engine??
Keep us informed. 
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 Chris and Cheryl
D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Gray foam yes.  Looking for a new block that wouldn't too far of a drive.
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