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Coke-in-MN 
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Posted: 19 Oct 2024 at 7:51pm |
Seems JD is moving lawn equipment to Mexico where wages are a little lower , line workers can make $ 6,000 a year there . https://youtu.be/DmbXS5zYrFs?si=UAe5P3r4_ueKdFZDThen they are also moving many other divisions also as their income of $61 Billion was being dragged down by overpaid US employees
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 6:23am |
so....
since their 'input costs' will be lower, the new retail price will be .....
HIGHER !!! 
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 8:04am |
its a double edge sword ... Everyone wants a GOOD PAYING job, and a GOOD RAISE every year to say up in the MIDDLE CLASS.... on the other hand we all want an ECONOMICAL mower / food / housing / economy so we dont spend ALL THE MONEY on one item..
Businesses move overseas to get CHEAP LABOR so they can keep the price of goods LOWER, where the general population thinks they should be.
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 3:39pm |
 steve(ill) wrote:
...Businesses move overseas to get CHEAP LABOR so they can keep the price of goods LOWER...
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All they are really doing is chasing lower cost government. Taxes underpin all "rents" and expenses like wages. If rent is $100/week wages could be $300/week. But if rent is $1000/week a person needs $3000/week wages.
Safely housing, freeding, and entertaining humans are about the same costs the world around to remain healthy and productive.
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Edited by jvin248 - 21 Oct 2024 at 3:53pm
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 4:09pm |
jaybmiller wrote:
so....
since their 'input costs' will be lower, the new retail price will be .....
HIGHER !!! |
Yeah yeah, well your garlic markup is a total ripoff too! How in the heck did you come up with that price?! It surely doesn’t cost you that much to grow it!
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 6:19pm |
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A trailer manufacturer, that made utility and snowmobile trailers was bought out a couple years ago. Just announced the are closing and putting 113 out of work. They told the press that the workers would find other jobs in the area because companies are hiring. See how well that goes.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 9:00pm |
Odd how it works as my real estate value rose $120,000 this year as INFLATION had driven up the cost of housing = then they said they lowered the mill rate of tax but the actual bill for taxes owed went up $1,000. Guess as value only rose $70,000 last year inflation increased value
Part of it was a new school levy that was said to only cost $20 a month for a house valued at $100,000 -
I don't believe there is a house in MN valued at that .
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 10:21pm |
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I will never buy another piece of green stuff again. My JD lawn mower is getting close to its last days. I've already replaced it with a Bad Boy zero turn.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2024 at 3:57am |
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US corporations tend to lose sight their typical median income purchaser is that same ‘overpaid’ employee and that with those gone four others for each of those employees also lost wages or benefits to compensate for that loss of revenue stream.
Called Short Sighted bean counters.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2024 at 4:48am |
200Tom1 wrote:
I will never buy another piece of green stuff again. My JD lawn mower is getting close to its last days. I've already replaced it with a Bad Boy zero turn. |
GOOD! That’s the most powerful thing the consumer can do. Now just get a few million of your friends to do the same.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2024 at 3:23pm |
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Easy to go with a different brand for lawn mowers, but it's not as easy in large age equipment. Only got JD CaseIH, New Holland and whatever goes under the Agco heading. I'm thinking JD has the biggest dealer network in the midwest. I didn't say the best. We just lost our big Challenger dealer. Neighbor got a JD planter last year and it was a pita to get it to talk to their challenger tractors.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2024 at 4:35pm |
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CIHNH made mostly in India, not much done here. Fendt is now a Big Up and Comer around these parts as no one else is selling Service with their machines.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2024 at 8:59pm |
re: my garlic... I sell garlic at the price the public willing to buy it for. I did NOT come up with the price. The 'market' did. I don't force anyone to buy my garlic, heck I give a lot away. It's so dang easy to grow.Poke a zillion holes i the ground, plant biggest bulbs from last year, cover up, sit back and enjoy Mother Nature work with you. No bad bugs to deal with,even deer and rabbits don't like garlic.
As for my input costs.....hmm, garlic bulbs were free, land paid for, no fuel to buy, no machine to harvest it, sun dries it, hauled to store 5 minutes away so maybe $1 for gas.Staff at store sell in exchange for some garlic..... So.....everybody's happy at the end of the day
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Posted: 23 Oct 2024 at 10:21am |
jaybmiller wrote:
re: my garlic... I sell garlic at the price the public willing to buy it for. I did NOT come up with the price. The 'market' did. I don't force anyone to buy my garlic, heck I give a lot away. It's so dang easy to grow.Poke a zillion holes i the ground, plant biggest bulbs from last year, cover up, sit back and enjoy Mother Nature work with you. No bad bugs to deal with,even deer and rabbits don't like garlic.
As for my input costs.....hmm, garlic bulbs were free, land paid for, no fuel to buy, no machine to harvest it, sun dries it, hauled to store 5 minutes away so maybe $1 for gas.Staff at store sell in exchange for some garlic..... So.....everybody's happy at the end of the day
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So….. sell it for what people will pay…Check You don’t sell it based solely on input costs…,Check (free?! Dang you are a ripoff artist!) When a company does the same, it’s a scam though. You’re precious Jay. 
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Posted: 23 Oct 2024 at 3:06pm |
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Anybody know what the possibility of getting a section on the forum called sh!t slingers corner or something like that so people can go there and argue?
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Posted: 23 Oct 2024 at 3:20pm |
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It exists already. Called politics section
Edited by plummerscarin - 23 Oct 2024 at 3:24pm
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Posted: 23 Oct 2024 at 4:41pm |
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Anybody know what the possibility of getting a section on the forum called sh!t slingers corner or something like that so people can go there and argue? |
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Posted: 23 Oct 2024 at 7:07pm |
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Odd they never mention firing the company negotiators that raised that wage or attempt to control the cost of wages to the point of bankruptcy and incite the rest of the company employees to demand raises to keep blue and white collars near an acceptable level. I mean, somebody with JD tattooed to his arse had to ok the wages paid.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2024 at 9:55am |
Walker wrote:
Odd they never mention firing the company negotiators that raised that wage or attempt to control the cost of wages to the point of bankruptcy and incite the rest of the company employees to demand raises to keep blue and white collars near an acceptable level. I mean, somebody with JD tattooed to his arse had to ok the wages paid.
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OK’d the wages likely with the Mexico backup plan waiting in the wings.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2024 at 10:22am |
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That is the same thing I said to my dad. Nothing new for any company to do but J.D. seems to do it in spectacular fashion. My brother used to run 9770 combines and it always amazed me at how many parts on it had China on them, especially compared to the Gleaners of the same age. Yes I know that agco has a pile of stuff that is not built in the US but you just kinda think of J.D. as a good old American company and I think that is why it is causing such a commotion. Well that and the lingering effects of their wokeism bs.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2024 at 11:08am |
Nothing smells like a John, their lawsuit against Kinze really opened my eyes.
Did not have rotary combines for thirty yrs, pushed their conventional as the best out there, now you cant get a JD conventional for corn and beans.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2024 at 12:43pm |
DanWi wrote:
A trailer manufacturer, that made utility and snowmobile trailers was bought out a couple years ago. Just announced the are closing and putting 113 out of work. They told the press that the workers would find other jobs in the area because companies are hiring. See how well that goes. |
Dan do you by chance remember what the name of the company was. As Soon as I read snowmobile trailers it got me curious.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2024 at 6:50pm |
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Triton trailers in Hartford Wisconsin. I just thought in the press release they make light of it by saying they can just go get other jobs because places are hiring
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Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 12:03pm |
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Triton trailers in Hartford Wisconsin. I just thought in the press release they make light of it by saying they can just go get other jobs because places are hiring |
Thank you Dad. What a damn shame! They have been making trailers for a long time. In fact I owned a couple Triton snowmobile trailers over the years.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2024 at 3:42am |
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More layoffs and shutdowns. Saw last week that another trucking company in Wausau was closing. I hope things change for the better in a couple of days.
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