Vintage D17 Toy repair help.

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I purchased this c.1960 ERTL D17 toy , in pieces as a project.

I’m having trouble finding the rivets/fasteners for the rear wheels…..truthfully, I’m not sure what they really were or the exact size. (Wheel hole is roughly 1/4” dia. and axle hole is about 1/8” dia.)

I emailed two major toy parts suppliers about 2 weeks ago and neither got back to me. So, I presume they don’t have them or didn’t understand what I was trying to ask for.

I do see that there are reproduction headlights, steering wheels, wheels and even fenders….so I assume there has to be the right rivets out there….somewhere

I’m guessing a hollow or semi tubular rivet was used to act as the hub in the wheel and a smaller rivet/dowel/pin was driven through the back side of the axle. (as the wheel hole is larger than the axle hole.)

Or maybe it was all one rivet, like a shoulder type with too different diameters on its shaft….but you hardly see those offered anywhere , unless a special request is made and like 100+ are ordered.

I know there’s about a 1000 ways to reattach the wheels. Like, I could drill out the axle hole the same size as the wheel and use a threaded barrel type rivet and bolt them back on. But , I’d prefer not to alter anything if I absolutely don’t have too and keep it original.

Anyone on here ever restore one of these or know what type/size fastener to use or the best place to ask?

Thanks.

Edited by JayD-17(NY) - 29 Oct 2023 at 3:52pm

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	I purchased this c.1960 ERTL D17 toy , in pieces as a project. I’m having trouble finding the rivets/fasteners for the rear wheels…..truthfully, I’m not sure what they really were or the exact size. (Wheel hole is roughly 1/4” dia. and axle hole is about 1/8” dia.) I emailed two major toy parts suppliers about 2 weeks ago and neither got back to me. So, I presume they don’t have them or didn’t understand what I was trying to ask for. I do see that there are reproduction headlights, steering wheels, wheels and even fenders….so I assume there has to be the right rivets out there….somewhere I’m guessing a hollow or semi tubular rivet was used to act as the hub in the wheel and a smaller rivet/dowel/pin was driven through the back side of the axle. (as the wheel hole is larger than the axle hole.) Or maybe it was all one rivet, like a shoulder type with too different diameters on its shaft….but you hardly see those offered anywhere , unless a special request is made and like 100+ are ordered. I know there’s about a 1000 ways to reattach the wheels. Like, I could drill out the axle hole the same size as the wheel and use a threaded barrel type rivet and bolt them back on. But , I’d prefer not to alter anything if I absolutely don’t have too and keep it original. Anyone on here ever restore one of these or know what type/size fastener to use or the best place to ask? Thanks. Edited by JayD-17(NY) - 29 Oct 2023 at 3:52pm

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	i know this not the place to ask. but how about boxing it up and selling me what you have. wore out many a d17 in my time. it will be easier to put tires on rims before attaching to tractor. be very careful with front axle they are not as strong as a person might think. my brothers and I made a jig to hold the back side of rivet while penning over the outside of the rivet, if you were to stay original. if not you could use a press on nut to hold the rivet and wheel in place. before putting the tires on, we warm the rubber by placing one tire at a time in boiling water. made them more pliable. good luck.

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	We have the before picture, make sure you post a after picture once you finish the restoration. Cool project.
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	talk to someone that has a small metal lathe, maybe they can machine you an axle from a small bolt?

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