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d16 dozer will a 855 Cummins swap work?
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    Posted: 06 Sep 2016 at 1:13pm
I want information on swapping a 855 Cummins with the factory Allis Chalmers motor on a d 16 dozer.thamk you any information pertaining to engine conversion in similar machine will be appreciated.
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It's been done- there's a thread on the Heavy Equipment Forums about it...
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Same idea, different animals.  There is the start of a JD engine swap into a  HD21 over at Van Natta Dozers site.  They aimed to start with a Cummins and detail the traps found which caused the selection of the JD - which should apply to a 16 too.  Last time I looked the project had stalled before completion.
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From memory, the the repower to Cummins on H.E.F was a complete success, and the owner never looked back. 855 cummins would be the most logical choice if you want away from 844 Allis
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yes I think he calls himself 'HD16B' is on HEF. 855 conversion and tractor goes very well. He also converted the undercarriage to D7G chains rollers and segments.
From memory the headaches involve a adapter plate for flywheel housing to torque converter housing.
but what he did is all documented on HEF.
tits tyres and tracks

they all cost you money
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IIRC  There were some FD 30s that had Cummins instead of Fiat engines  so that might have helped a swap.
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Thanks to all of you. In case it's of interest the situation is a hd16 with a broken crank and hasn't run in 10 year so or so is nearby and I have an old c above with a very solid 855 that I'd like to see put to use. The owner of the dozer don't think it's worth the trouble but the transmission has low hours on o.h. and the undercarriage is in very reasonable condition. I would certainly appreciate any voices of experience in aid to my decision. Thanks again for your time.   Jeff. Ne south Dakota.
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The same fellow also has a blade with water in the oil sat several years. I think it's from the 80s has a nice cab and a snow plow attatchment. I wonder what that would take to see operating. I'm sure the crank will be rusted ect. So I call it a motor swithch. Seems like the
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It's td25c on the hef forum.I did know where a complete machine was at 2 years ago. Give me a call at 2529162927
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Seen one HD16 with a 8V-71 in it out in western MN - nice conversion and they said power was no problem .
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There is a HD11 with a lot of picture on here with a V6 71. It is a Ag tractor named Power no Shift maybe the name of the post even.
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http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?11819-16b-engine-repower

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Edited by Andrew_D - 08 Sep 2016 at 5:44pm

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