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wjohn 
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Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 11:16am |
Found an All-Crop 60 that has been pulled up to the side of the road, which I presume means someone is wanting to get rid of it. It's too rough to get it back into working condition but looks to still have most parts. There's a huge rat nest in it.
I see the factory tire size was 6.50-16. I have a used 5.50-16 and 6.00-16 from the front of my WD... Any chance I could get those old tires to fit on these rims to drag it a few miles home? Looks like the bolt pattern is completely different so I can't use new tires on my WD rims, and probably not worth buying new tires just to get this home and stick it in a fence row.
Is it worth dragging home for $100 or less to have around for parts? I don't have an All-Crop yet but wouldn't mind having a nicer one in a few years when I have shed space. am I better off trying to just buy some select parts off of it?
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Travis2766
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Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 9:07pm |
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If it’s not too far it’s worth $100, always nice to have spare parts when you need them. A few guards and a pulley and you got your money back.
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Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 7:20am |
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Doubt you could go wrong there. I would if were me
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Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 9:04am |
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I would try to get the whole machine. Looks like it’s possibly made during/just after WWII, as the header sides look like they might be aluminum.
I took a 60A that looked about like that and got it operational again, so it’s not necessarily a death sentence when they’re in that shape. Cleaning 30 years of rats’ nests out so the grain drag would turn was the most time consuming part.
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Posted: 26 Apr 2022 at 9:24pm |
Thanks all for the input. I am trying to figure out who owns it. Maybe it's not even for sale and they just dragged it up by the road for fun, ha.
I did have a thought today... I wonder if the bolt pattern on my old JD grain drill is the same. I put new tires on it a couple of years ago. I'll have to take some measurements on the All Crop wheels to see if they'll bolt up.
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Posted: 07 May 2022 at 10:18pm |
I heard back from the landowner today. Pulled the wheels off of my old JD grain drill and lucked into them fitting the All-Crop, so we made a deal. Man those bolts in the wheel hubs are a pain to keep from spinning when you're trying to break them loose after decades. Got it all swapped out, greased the heck out of the hubs (left side was very sloppy), and made it home at 20 MPH. He had two more that were in even worse shape (one caught on fire) that he had already hauled off for scrap. Wish I'd been able to pull the screens out of them but oh well. He has a few salvaged gearboxes, wheels, discharge hoods, and other parts I am going back for later.
The serial number is 158410 so I believe it's a 1948.
Creston, I too will need to remove a massive rat's nest. I'm hoping the screen can be saved - guessing it's probably wheat? He said they used to do wheat and soybeans with them but didn't remember anything about different screens. This thing is rusted through in so many places it's not worth trying to refurbish, but it should be a good parts machine for that day down the road when I get a nicer one. The pack rats have even chewed the aluminum parts.
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wjohn
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Posted: 11 May 2022 at 10:00pm |
I cleaned out enough of the rat mess to ID the finish screen. So far it looks to be in decent shape. The slots measure 5/32" x 3/4" which I think lines up with it being a wheat/milo screen, from what I've found online? That was probably the most common screen around these parts.
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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 2:21pm |
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That does look like a wheat/milo screen.
Wow! I’ve never seen rats chew metal like that before. See something new all the time
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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 6:30pm |
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All Crops don't bring a lot of money. I, personally, would look for one that is in better shape. I sent on in a lot better shape for scrap, since no one wanted it, even for parts.
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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 9:29pm |
Thanks for the confirmation on the screen. Yes, that rats here are nuts. I can only guess they were sharpening their teeth?
Agreed, hopefully I can find a nicer one close for $500 or something. Maybe I'll get lucky and someone will see this one in my yard and stop by to tell me they have one hiding in an old barn a couple miles away.
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Posted: 14 May 2022 at 6:03pm |
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Dad bought a new one right after he got home from WW2. He combined about anything around here, beans, clover, alalfafa, etc. The fun part of it was, he could be in the field 1/2 hour before the guys with JD, IHC, or Case machines and he would be there later than they could run. He said he paid for 160 acres with the old 60 and the round baler back in the 1950's. He had a chance to buy a new 90 but he waited too long. Hoping you can get some use outta it. Set right they will combine almost anything and do a clean job of it.
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Posted: 14 May 2022 at 8:07pm |
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I went to a farm sale one day and they came up to 2 old 60's, they looked good, they couldn't get a bid on them...i was walking away and turned and yelled a DOLLAR...the auctioneer said SOLD! chit! o-k. ..so .50 cents a piece isn't to bad!
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Posted: 15 May 2022 at 3:40pm |
I'd buy 2 for $1, dang! The distance is always the issue with these things since they're such a pain to move around. I know of a couple more sitting out in pastures close by that I plan to inquire about.
I'll try to get some pictures of the rusted/damaged areas, but I really think this is destined to be a parts machine, unfortunately. Better than the scrap yard at least.
I only have about 20 acres of tillable and had been thinking I'd find an old Gleaner, but one of these would probably do the job... Slower, but if the legends are true an All-Crop might be able to do an even better job. It's unlikely I'd have all 20 acres in the same crop at the same time so probably just 10 acres of crop per harvest. It would be nice to not have another engine sitting around most of the year.
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Posted: 24 May 2022 at 10:34pm |
I worked on the rat nest and took a few pictures of the worse of the rust. Don't get me wrong - I'm sure it could be repaired with enough time and money, but for now I'll hold out for a nicer one.
Here's looking up from underneath, where the drapers would bring the crop into the cylinder. You can see daylight:
Under the cylinder appears to have not quite rusted through, but I'm guessing those rust spots are pretty thin:
Some rust on the LH side near the rear corner:
The bottom of the bin is disappearing:
There's also a pretty good hole in the front side of what I think is the air duct from the fan:
Anyways, you get the picture. The fan housing has a dent in it too but I'm sure that could be worked out.
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Posted: 24 May 2022 at 10:38pm |
Inside didn't look terrible after I cleaned out the larger stuff with a hoe. Some of the wood pieces would need to be replaced. The rubber is of course gone from the cylinder.
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Posted: 25 May 2022 at 7:58am |
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I parted a couple combines and kept the fan assembly. A nice straw walker is on the rafter. Gave away two grain bins this weekend that were put on and use condition. It would be nice to see these parts used again.
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Posted: 28 May 2022 at 4:31pm |
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Thanks Lon. About 10 years ago I made it up to an Orange Spectacular. I won't be making it this year but would like to go again in the next couple. Would be hard to ship those parts for sure.
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Posted: 28 May 2022 at 4:47pm |
I spent a while trying to figure out what the point of the sprocket sticking way out from the wheel hub was on this machine, as I couldn't find any other All-Crops online like it. I came across the dual wheel attachment kit instructions and parts list in the manual and it clicked.
Looks like it uses 2 15" wheels back to back instead of the normal 16". Most setups I see have either the factory singles, or the tandem wheels so these must not have been too popular?
EDIT: Sure looks like a 15 in the diagram but then says to use 6.00 x 16 tires in the instructions for attaching section later on. The dual rims are unique part numbers, though, so they must just be narrower or have different offset. Standard (non-dual) tire size is 6.50 x 16. The manual calls out a 6 ply for the bin side and a 4 ply for the LH side... That must have saved a farmer a couple of bucks back in the day, since you don't carry as much weight on the LH side.
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Posted: 04 Jun 2022 at 8:35am |
I picked up the rest of the stuff - looks like 2 straw hoods, 2 sets of rims that have had truck rims welded to them for duals, one separate rim, 2 gearboxes, 2 sets of hitches/PTO shafts, some random Snap Coupler parts he found, and some packer wheels I hope to adapt to my JD drill. An original manual even turned up. I suspect it's a little older than this machine but hey, still lots of good info.
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Posted: 05 Jun 2022 at 7:11am |
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Nice haul!!
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Posted: 07 Jun 2022 at 5:59am |
Well for $100 you cant go wrong.
But that is a parts machine! I got much better units in my bone yard.
The big problem with these buggers is the hauling issue. Not fun, not easy.
BTW I hooked up a customer with a 72 in very nice condition... The previous owner was smart enough to grease up the bottom of the concave...I wipe away some grease with my finger.....shiney orange paint!!!
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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!
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Posted: 07 Jun 2022 at 9:50pm |
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Thanks Tom. I am planning on just keeping my eye out for a nicer one. I know where 3 more are, but they've all been sitting outside for years too. The problem with the nice ones is you can't see them from the road when they're hiding in an old barn!
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Posted: 08 Jun 2022 at 6:16am |
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Yep only way they stay nice is under shelter (and cleaning out the machine)
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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!
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Posted: 08 Jun 2022 at 7:16pm |
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I have a thread about three All-crop combines I found while buying several Clipper seed cleaners.
They are in Michigan but kept in a shed and all looked better than the pictures from the roadside.
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Posted: 08 Jun 2022 at 9:36pm |
 TomYaz wrote:
Yep only way they stay nice is under shelter (and cleaning out the machine) |
Except even then they get filled with rats here!
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Posted: 08 Jun 2022 at 9:37pm |
jvin248 wrote:
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I have a thread about three All-crop combines I found while buying several Clipper seed cleaners.
They are in Michigan but kept in a shed and all looked better than the pictures from the roadside.
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I saw that - just wish they weren't so far away. I'm pretty well limited to what I can tow home. I hope someone up your way can save those!
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