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   I just bought a New Idea 2 row (36 inch) pull picker and was wondering what is the best tractor to use with it.  I have a WD-45 but i've heard that with todays yields you need a tractor with a slow first gear.  Any thoughts?  if i have to upgrade i want something in the size of a 185 and preferably deisel.   Thanks!!!

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Matt (NEIA) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Butler Co. IA Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt (NEIA) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: best tractor for using pull picker Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 8:12pm
	I just bought a New Idea 2 row (36 inch) pull picker and was wondering what is the best tractor to use with it. I have a WD-45 but i've heard that with todays yields you need a tractor with a slow first gear. Any thoughts? if i have to upgrade i want something in the size of a 185 and preferably deisel. Thanks!!!

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Pat the Plumber CIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Springfield,Il Points: 4763	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat the Plumber CIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 8:31pm
	D-17 or D-19 ,Any 100 class would have plenty of HP to pull picker.WD is lacking with no Hi Lo,1st gear just not slow enough.feathering hand clutch gets old quick.
	You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.

robbieallis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Ohio Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote robbieallis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 8:32pm
	185 works great!
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den/southern illinoi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Sparta, Illinoi Points: 1971	Post Options Post Reply Quote den/southern illinoi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 8:34pm
	We use one of my brother Ron's D series tractors...either the D 17 or 19 as it does give you a lower ground speed and can shift up on the go for headlands. We also try to plant down our population to be able to pick without clutching. We're planting 40 inch rows and getting about 100 bushel per acre which allows us to keep moving with his New Idea picker. Den

BTERHAAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Fulton, MO Points: 147	Post Options Post Reply Quote BTERHAAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 8:51pm
	If you have hills in your field a 45 doesn't weigh enough to pull much of a load. Also depends if the picker is 8 or 12 row husking bed, I've picked 200 bushel corn with a d-17 wide open 1st high no problem but was probably turning 620 rpm pto speed.

Matt (NEIA) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Butler Co. IA Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt (NEIA) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 8:52pm
	it's an 8 row husking bed, the picker is a 324 and the husking unit is a 326 thanks so far guys!!!!!

Joe(OH) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Montezuma, Ohio Points: 969	Post Options Post Reply Quote Joe(OH) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 8:58pm
	I have a XT and a Oliver 83 narrow row picker. That what we pick with. I have picked with a D-17, plenty of power, but the height of 190 is nicer as well as the two way hydraulics. I highly recommend the two way hydraulics, cause if you get into fox tail or other weeds it likes to pull your picker down and causes problems. Good luck.
	Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.

bigfish_Oh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: West Liberty,Oh Points: 1226	Post Options Post Reply Quote bigfish_Oh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 9:19pm
	I have always been around a farm but not a farmer and only know of one reason to pick corn. Feeding livestock? Grandpa T. picked corn(#33)(1967) the day before the auction of his WD45 I bought back 21 years later. Grandpa B. was one of the last around to still pick early seventies(mounted,560 D, which did catch fire). He was picking for several neighbors to feed from.
	1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p. 1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe 1951 WD, factory p.s. 1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale 2014 HD Tri Glide 2009 GMC CC SLT Dually

9675 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Colorado Points: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote 9675 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 9:26pm
	We run a 3 row new idea with a 7020 powershift usually in 4th low

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	180 or 185 would be ideal especially if you do have some hills as stated on an earlier post. al 200 or 190 would be nice sitting up higher, but anything more would be horsepower overkill and less fuel efficient. Jason

Pat the Plumber CIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Springfield,Il Points: 4763	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat the Plumber CIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 10:30pm
	Plenty of reasons to pick corn on the ear; No need to dry,drys naturaly in corncrib Can get crop out earlier Can get crop out faster(I am talking about 50 years ago when shelling units were slow and heavy). Pickers are lighter than shelling units and don't compact soil as much. Manpower was cheap and yes it could be easily fed to livestock. Price was usually better when corn was shelled in spring/early summer. We put corn up on the ear until 82. I can remember a crew would shell my other grandfather's corn every year.They were like a band of roving gypsee's.They would come through the area and shell almost all the area's farmers corn as they moved through.They had a giant Minnie Mo sheller that my granfathers super M could barely keep up with.
	You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.

D15Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote D15Man Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2009 at 11:47pm
	You also pick ear corn to grind up for feed in a hammermill. People also sell it as "deer corn" to hunters. As Pat said, in the old days when you fed a horse or a cow, you just tossed down a bale of hay from the loft into the manger and dropped a couple of ears of corn in for their 'dessert,' or gave them a scoop of barley. Nowadays, horses get treated better than humans! They get choice alfalfa hay and sweet feed and stuff the old-timers never imagined. It was a lot simpler back then, and the animals were just as healthy.

wheatbreeder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Harrow, Ontario Points: 580	Post Options Post Reply Quote wheatbreeder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 2009 at 8:21am
	At home as a kid we used D15's the worked great on that type of picker plenty of power