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Dave (NE) 
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 Posted: 02 Jan 2023 at 9:07am |
Another picture of the ripper.
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Travis2766
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Posted: 02 Jan 2023 at 5:48pm |
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That ripper is awesome!!! I’d love to have one of those.
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190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66 and a whole mess of equipment.
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truckerfarmer
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Posted: 02 Jan 2023 at 9:39pm |
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Yes, Dave that would work great. Finding one around here would be like hen's teeth.
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jvin248
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Posted: 02 Jan 2023 at 10:44pm |
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Ok, so you got me more curious about state of the art pumpkin planting and I did some light research. Exmples below are more what I was suggesting for planting seeds with cover; cover might hide the seeds from your predators. When I was a kid we used an old corn planter to plant our pumpkins. Rye is a great advancement that if youtube existed back then to hear about it we would have tried it.
Could you find a shank or two (or get some scrap steel) off an old
cultivator that you could attach to the tongue of your planter? Clamp
two of them one on each side to get your wheel width covered?
This family plants into rye 'green' then rolls to terminate after planting. (The ground under the rye could be soft like you need for your water wheel spike).
Another seed planting into a cover crop (clover)
This family rolls the rye to terminate and then plants into the rye mat. Challenge with this order is you need to coordinate the rolling direction with planting direction.
This farmer prepping for winter squash by running another implement that has a planting shoe to create his furrow. That might work ahead of your water wheel.
One of the waterwheel planters I found
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truckerfarmer
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Posted: 03 Jan 2023 at 10:34pm |
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jvin248, I don't know what your deal is. But, I didn't post here asking how to grow pumpkins. You keep pushing your regenerative farming. Not gonna convert me. What works for some, doesn't work for others. You're in zone 6 growing region. I'm in zone 4. My growing season is shorter than yours. Around here with a cover crop, soil temp wouldn't be warm enough for pumpkins until mid June. Using my methods, I can get a month jump start on that. Some years I can have pumpkins in the ground before no-till farmers have even turned a wheel.
I've researched regenerative farming, and one of the major downfalls is weed control, which ends up requiring more chemical application. Beginning to think the only knowledge you have about weed control in cucurbits is the business end of a hoe.
Edited by truckerfarmer - 04 Jan 2023 at 4:47am
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'53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer
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Dave (NE)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 9:40am |
 truckerfarmer wrote:
Yes, Dave that would work great. Finding one around here would be like hen's teeth. |
Yeah, it is the only one I have ever seen that was complete. See some at the Allis shows vendors have, but not in as good of shape as the one I have. I noticed you have a snap coupler field cultivator. I also have one and use it in my sweet corn patch and garden. It really does go pretty deep and does a nice job. You could maybe try it. Or, see if you could get a single shank subsoiler. I do see those fairly often. Dave
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truckerfarmer
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Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 9:18pm |
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Dave, as I recall someone on the forum once referred to that as a chisel plow. My snap coupler field cultivator is the c shank type. Works good in worked ground. When I tried using it for first pass I snapped a leaf in a shank. Wish I had a coil shank type. That's why I was thinking about newer field cultivator shanks or chisel plow shanks. Figured I will end up building from scratch or cutting down a bigger one. If I go pull type, I could weight it down to get the depth I want. Figure I could add or remove shanks till I get to depth I want and tractor can pull.
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'53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer
Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it!
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truckerfarmer
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Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 9:23pm |
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I don't have to worry to much about trash plugging because I go over the field with a stalk chopper/ flail shredder after harvest. Pumpkin vines will plug any tillage equipment.
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Looking at the past to see the future.
'53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer
Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it!
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jvin248
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Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 9:41pm |
truckerfarmer wrote:
jvin248, I don't know what your deal is. But... |
Now now you don't need to get mean about things. I'm just sharing my experience. Maybe it helps you maybe it helps others. I'm in zone 5 and after testing both ways why the extra expense, time,
risk, and effort of putting plants in when the seeds do just as well or
better? Apparently pumpkins at your place need the full green house and transplant expense, ok.
There are hundreds of farmin' recipes out there, looked like a few viable new ones that I found during a quick youtube search related to the topic so I shared them. Again, maybe they help someone -- price and availability of fertilizers and other chemicals are hitting everyone hard these days.
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Dave (NE)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 9:56pm |
This is the field cultivator I have. Is it what you call the c shank? If so, I may have some replacement shanks.
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truckerfarmer
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Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 10:16pm |
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Yes Dave, that's identical to mine. It has been retired to light duty. I mounted hiller discs on it a just use it to hill potatoes on the rare occasion I plant them anymore. It had been used hard before I got it. Most of the shanks are sprung.
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Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it!
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Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 10:51pm |
jvin248 wrote:
truckerfarmer wrote:
jvin248, I don't know what your deal is. But... |
Now now you don't need to get mean about things. I'm just sharing my experience. Maybe it helps you maybe it helps others. I'm in zone 5 and after testing both ways why the extra expense, time,
risk, and effort of putting plants in when the seeds do just as well or
better? Apparently pumpkins at your place need the full green house and transplant expense, ok.
There are hundreds of farmin' recipes out there, looked like a few viable new ones that I found during a quick youtube search related to the topic so I shared them. Again, maybe they help someone -- price and availability of fertilizers and other chemicals are hitting everyone hard these days.
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Most of the members on here know I'm a pretty easy going guy. Many of them know me face to face. You're kinda a newbie around here, so I was kinda letting it slide. But you just seem to want to push my buttons. Well you have pushed it once to many. You're showing yourself to be just a keyboard commando. Most of us try not to hijack others posts. But you come on here trying to tell me what to do. The only reason I even posted about raising pumpkins the way I do was to help others understand my tillage goals. I didn't solicit any advice on planting them. The only reason I gave any more information about it was because I was asked. I was civil explaining to you why your methods would not work for me, but you just kept pushing your agenda. YOU COME OFF AS NOTHING BUT A SNOT NOSED, KNOW IT ALL PUNK! If you want to push your regenerative farming, start your own topic. I would suggest you just leave this discussion.
Edited by truckerfarmer - 04 Jan 2023 at 10:52pm
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Posted: 05 Jan 2023 at 5:02am |
jvin248 wrote:
truckerfarmer wrote:
jvin248, I don't know what your deal is. But... |
Now now you don't need to get mean about things. I'm just sharing my experience. Maybe it helps you maybe it helps others. I'm in zone 5 and after testing both ways why the extra expense, time,
risk, and effort of putting plants in when the seeds do just as well or
better? Apparently pumpkins at your place need the full green house and transplant expense, ok.
There are hundreds of farmin' recipes out there, looked like a few viable new ones that I found during a quick youtube search related to the topic so I shared them. Again, maybe they help someone -- price and availability of fertilizers and other chemicals are hitting everyone hard these days.
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That’s a hot button topic!!! I follow another forum and it’s amazing some folks do great with no till and planting green. Then you have others that are positive every inch must be worked black. I’ve planted sprayed off cover crop rye and within 24 hours no tilled corn into it. Done the samewith hay fields. The OP needs to watch some Steve Groff videos. I see another guy who plants his entire pumpkin field to oats then destroys strips for pumpkins he still harvests a majority of the oats. I’m in northern Michigan and do fine with dabbling in no till corn, beans, and wheat.
Edited by victoryallis - 05 Jan 2023 at 5:17am
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Posted: 03 Jan 2024 at 8:57pm |
It's interesting to see the different approaches and perspectives on farming practices like no-till and planting green. There's no one-size-fits-all solution, and it's essential to adapt to the specific conditions and needs of your farm.For those looking to explore more about innovative farming techniques and sustainable practices, https://resopp-sn.org/ might have some valuable resources to offer.Thanks for sharing your experiences and insights, and let's continue learning from one another to make our farming journeys even better!
Edited by AlexanderBarnett - 09 Jan 2024 at 7:29am
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