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Model B rear lug bolt question |
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buckeyeag
Bronze Level Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Location: Ohio Points: 10 |
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 9:07am |
I recently acquired a B and it has two broken rear lug bolts. I have two questions. Are replacements available and how do I remove the broken bolts? It looks like they are splined and have been pressed in. Can I drive them out, or will I need to remove the whole hub and press them out, or would I be better off looking for two new hubs with the all the lug bolts intact?
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22818 |
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A press would be ideal, but I have driven out lugs before with a big hammer. It would help shock them loose if you have something heavy behind the hub when you smack the lug.
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Charlie175
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6357 |
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Which lug bolts would be pressed in? Was that an option? Mine has the standard set of 4 bolts that are not pressed.
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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Hartland Farm
Silver Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Tennessee Points: 86 |
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Buckey must have a B with the wide adjustable front end. They came with the 5 lug rear rear axle like a C but I think that I tryed to replace a lug on one of my C's and I didn't have room to get a new one in. I don't remember but it may be the B that has clearance. I would use a brass hammer.
Joe (TN)
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buckeyeag
Bronze Level Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Location: Ohio Points: 10 |
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It is adjustable wide front with 5 bolt hubs. Are these hubs interchangable with a C? I though I had heard that the B, C, and CA all had different hubs, but I did not realize that the adjustable tread B hubs were different from the wishbone B hubs.
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Charlie175
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6357 |
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My wishbone has eccentric bolts to hold the rim on to the hub. You have several tread widths depending on how you place the holding bar.
Anyone got a picture of the 5 bolt hub?
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22818 |
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Charlie, He is talking about the 5 lugs that hold the wheel center to the axle hub as on this C. Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 09 Dec 2010 at 2:45pm |
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Brad MI
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arcadia MI Points: 339 |
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That's correct, the C axle is not the same as the B flanged axle.
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1946WP
Orange Level Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Location: mn Points: 780 |
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I thought the flanged axel on the b & c were the same , but according to my parts book, they have different part #'s . Don't know what the difference is. the large reduction gear has a different # of teeth. they might be splined different for for the large gear?
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wfmurray
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Bostic NC Points: 1225 |
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Used punch near the size of bolt and hit real solid with 21/2 lb hammer brought mine out. Three pr four good licks.
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buckeyeag
Bronze Level Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Location: Ohio Points: 10 |
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Thanks for the help. Are there any parts suppliers that sell the lug bolts? Also, I may have access to a parts C, are they the same bolts?
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1946WP
Orange Level Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Location: mn Points: 780 |
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according to my parts book the stud bolts to hold the wheel centers on are the same on b & C
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22818 |
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Studs could probably be found at ,Fastenal or rob them from a parts B or C. It looks like the broken ones will come out OK with the axle on the tractor but putting new full length ones in might require removing the axle from the final drive????
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Brad MI
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arcadia MI Points: 339 |
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The axles are different, the studs are the same. The two axles on the left are B axles, the axle on the right is a C axle. You should be able to press the studs out of a parts C and use them on your B.
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Bill Long
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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You know, Even I an old Allis Chalmer's dealer's son cannot believe the information that is available on this site. Believe it or not we never had a problem with this.
It is good to see you all taking such good care of my favorate.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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