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Thad in AR. 
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 7:37am |
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I saw an old line shaft driven drillpress for sale. It came out of the old Daisie BB gun factory near here which makes me want it even more. It’s been for sale over a week and still there but the owner has yet to message me.
Edited by Thad in AR. - 27 Jan 2019 at 7:04pm
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 7:41am |
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Keep on him. Let him know you're interested
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 7:56am |
dang sounds 'new' to me...mine's a hand cranker, mounted on a wall... been 'upadated' to a Jacobs chuck...
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 8:44am |
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yeah...i'd keep calling him or maybe go visit, or he might just haul it off for scrap
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 9:27am |
Well,,Thad,,at least you got that sort of interesting stuff listed around your neck of the woods,,,,I never see that equipment listed around here,,,, There is an "auction" place bout 2 miles up the road from me where they hold auction bout every 3 months or so and I go hopin to find something I ain't got one of,,,,,,The problem is when something interesting does show up these friggin numbskulls around here think it is more valuable than gold,,,,shheeeesh,,, Bout 3-4 years ago, one of the farmers had an old Craftsman 109 lathe that needed lots of work,,with NO tooling that was catchin lots of attention and you would of thought thet little sob would sell for $200-300,,,,chit,,it went to a new home to the tune of $550,,!!! I told the buyer I would of sold him my 109 for that price,,,sheeesh.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 9:30am |
I have one of those out in my "shop". A guy showed up at my old work places one day, wanting to get rid of it, but didn't want it scrapped. It went from his truck to mine and had to use the engine hoist(cherry picker thing) to get it off the truck and set against the wall. It had a big pulley added and someone had ran it from and electric motor at some time. I have never had power to it, but it works GREAT for cracking walnuts after I made a quick die for the bottom and added a smaller MT sleeve in the quill.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 9:34am |
OH,,and,,I had forgot,,,there is an old junk iron dealer that has one of those BIG floor model drills that needs a motor and has lots of the bigger size bits that are morse taper. Don't know the brand but the motor mounts on the inside at the bottom of the housing,,,? The old style rivetted belt is still there but would prolly blow up is used again,,,,the whole thing is bout 6 feet high and prolly weighs 3-4 hunndred pounds,,,!!!! I ask him every time I see him if he ready to sell but just shakes his head,,,,he's 85 years old,,,,and kinda stubborn,,,,,, 
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 9:39am |
By the way,,,thinkin on it,,,Is there any interest here for a Craftsman 109 lathe,,?? Very clean and,,,,,and,,,, "Ran when Parked" 4-5 years ago,,,,???
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 9:49am |
I grew up with one of those mounted on a block wall. Flat pulley for the upper shaft drive if preferred, hand wheel for depth, or indexing pawl so you could be doing something else,,,like oiling the drill, hand crank on opposite end of shaft, installed optional electric motor above driven via v-belt seems like it always had a bit, large enough to do the job. I think my brother still has it.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 9:53am |
 desertjoe wrote:
By the way,,,thinkin on it,,,Is there any interest here for a Craftsman 109 lathe,,?? Very clean and,,,,,and,,,, "Ran when Parked" 4-5 years ago,,,,??? |
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 10:01am |
desertjoe wrote:
By the way,,,thinkin on it,,,Is there any interest here for a Craftsman 109 lathe,,?? Very clean and,,,,,and,,,, "Ran when Parked" 4-5 years ago,,,,??? |
I wish I had your 109 lathe, not gonna come after it though
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 10:14am |
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Have 3 drillpresses now it seems - small floor press that takes up to 5/8 drill it says - seems the quill bearings lasted about a year or so and had to replace quill .
Bought a larger unit rated up to 1" and multi step drives and lot better precision as well as other features .
Now it seems i use the Bridgeport Mill more than either drillpress - bought that from company I was working for when it closed -$450 with all the collets , tooling , vices , degree table , and end mills .
Also bought a South Bend 9" lathe for $250 and was going to buy the 12" x 48" Clausing Lathe and tooling but figured my Nishimori 16" gap bed lathe was all I needed at present . (Clausing sold for $500) I Did get all the tooling for the Clausing though to use, Aloris tool holder , carbide tools, boring head and other Aloris holders .
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 11:18am |
desertjoe wrote:
Well,,Thad,,at least you got that sort of interesting stuff listed around your neck of the woods,,,,I never see that equipment listed around here,,,, There is an "auction" place bout 2 miles up the road from me where they hold auction bout every 3 months or so and I go hopin to find something I ain't got one of,,,,,,The problem is when something interesting does show up these friggin numbskulls around here think it is more valuable than gold,,,,shheeeesh,,, Bout 3-4 years ago, one of the farmers had an old Craftsman 109 lathe that needed lots of work,,with NO tooling that was catchin lots of attention and you would of thought thet little sob would sell for $200-300,,,,chit,,it went to a new home to the tune of $550,,!!! I told the buyer I would of sold him my 109 for that price,,,sheeesh. |
Joe if you remember it took several years to find my lathe. The old Atlas drillpress I just got came from the scrap yard. I traded other scrap for it. I put a 1 hp motor on it and it works well cept too fast. I’ll keep looking for a factory center pulley for it or sell it if I can snag this big old relic. I know Daisy came here in 1958 so I wonder where this old beast was before that? The pics show a motor mounted on the base and a long leather belt as you described.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 1:53pm |
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We had a hand crank on the farm that we moved to in 1960. It was good for pinching curious boys fingers. Worked good for that.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 2:19pm |
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Retired from maintance and wanted a lathe to play with . Negibhor found an old Mornarch.Must be pre ww 1.No ser no. .Bout 14 in swing and 50 in between centers.Got 3 and 4 jaw chucks and a bucket of tooling , 2 hp single phase motor.Must weigh 2 to3 thousand lb. Good to kill time with . 300 hundred bucks .Not precise but fun.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 5:11pm |
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I have one of them old hand crank style drill presses that is still brand new. Never been mounted on the wall and has never drilled a hole. I bought it 30 years ago when an old hardware store in my hometown went out of business. 90 year old lady who owned and ran it died. Was probably sitting in her store for 50 years prior to that. Darrel
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 5:52pm |
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I’m hopefully going to look at it tomorrow. He says it’s over 500 lbs. he doesn’t think we can get it in my truck so maybe my trailer. He says it’s very muddy at the moment.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 10:06pm |
Hey Charlie and Joe,,,I'll clean it up and post some pics,, as I been thinkin I need to start sellin most of them treasures I been rat holing so somebody can get some use out of,,ain't doing nobody any good back in the cawnor,,,,,  Dang,,,,ole Coke has got way too much of them great machine tools,,don't he,,?? Well,,Thad I hope that one is the one that will work for you,,,I like the design as it is bottom heavy and don't take too much real estate,,,, Good luck,,,,
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Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 11:36pm |
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if'n that drill is about 6 ft tall, Joe must hafta look up to see the top of it? (poke,poke)
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Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 6:53am |
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I spent a lot of time looking at camelback drill presses and found a lot of similar presses but the one I’m lookin at has a big round base and a big square table with an oil trough. Most I saw had a square base and round table. This one doesn’t appear to have power down feed.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 4:07pm |
OK Joe, I'll give ye the $50 you're asking for it and I'm thanking you in advance for bringing it up here for me. Are you gonna stay over a couple a weeks an teach me how to use it?  I'll buy some Black Label and keep it at just the right temp!!
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Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 7:10pm |
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Bought it and it’s sitting in the shop beside the Atlas I just finished.
Mechanics machine Co. Rockford Illinois. The seller is going to give me a production counter that was on it at the Daisy BB gun plant.
It’s all free and nothing seems broken. The canvas belt is very loose. That may be quite an expense.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 7:49pm |
Ted J wrote:
OK Joe, I'll give ye the $50 you're asking for it and I'm thanking you in advance for bringing it up here for me.
Are you gonna stay over a couple a weeks an teach me how to use it? I'll buy some Black Label and keep it at just the right temp!!
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Dang you beat me with that offer you know probably twice what it is worth.
Am I thought I was about the only one here that would need training to make all them Alice pieces that you cannot buy no more.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 8:11pm |
[QUOTE=shameless dude]if'n that drill is about 6 ft tall, Joe must hafta look up to see the top of it? POKE, POKE
Well Shameless,,, I been funn'in you all this time,,,,, ,,,,,I'm actually bout 6' -3 3/16" and,,,,and,,,comin on 56 years young,,,,,hope you ain't too disappointed,,,,,,
Well,,Ted,,I'm glad to see you is interested in the fine equipment of our yesterdays,,,, ,,,but ,,,just so you don't wind up sellin some of YOUR stuff too cheap,,,you really need to get you a new keyboard,,,,cause the "0" on yours does NOT work too good,,,I KNOW you was wantin to offer me $500 (Five Hunnert) but your dang keyboard only come up with thet $50 offer,,,but,,,,but,,,I'll look the other way cause I know you intended it to be $500,,,,,,,, Chit ,,Guys,,I apologize to not post a pic as the grandson was here this weekend,,and that little chit flat wears me out,,,I finally gave up bout 2 PM and got dressed and went to go see Momma in C-Bad...Just walked in the door,,,and,,,,and,,,he was gone,,,, |
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Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 8:16pm |
Hey Thad,,,Congrats on the steal,,,errrrr purchase,,,you never have said what you give for it have you,,,??? If I remember right,,that dude that has the one I'm talkin bout told me you could grind out the rivets, take out the excess and re-rivet the leather pieces,,,he also told me those belts can run with lots of slack without worry,,,. Ya gonna post some pics,,??
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Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 8:35pm |
desertjoe wrote:
Hey Thad,,,Congrats on the steal,,,errrrr purchase,,,you never have said what you give for it have you,,,??? If I remember right,,that dude that has the one I'm talkin bout told me you could grind out the rivets, take out the excess and re-rivet the leather pieces,,,he also told me those belts can run with lots of slack without worry,,,. Ya gonna post some pics,,?? |
I couldn’t get him to take a penny less than $75.00 and and and he delivered it. Just so you know I did add a little on for the delivery.
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I’ve been letting everything soak in deep creep and tonight I oiled everything and wired the ole beast up. The motor starts slow but this thing is the smoothest running drillpress I’ve ever ran. Slow speed is sloooow. The motor is a big old beast wired for 120. It seems slow and weak. The switch is in a big metal box and works like a breaker. It runs about a minute and trips. I see no tag but I saaume this needs to be on 240. I have a 240 v motor off my old air compressor I may put on it.
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Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 9:48pm |
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Thad, I don't know how ORIGINAL you want this to be........ I have a 1940s 6 inch lathe. It had a 1-1/4 inch wide leather belt on when I got it.. all tore up... I bought a flat fan belt for a car engine ( with the 7-8 small grooves) that was 1-1/4 wide and the right length and installed that instead... been on there 30 years and never needs adjustment !!
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He Joe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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and that was one seconds worth.
Ain't nothing wrong with MY key board....cept my FAT fingers.
An I agree with Ray, that $50 is too much so I'm now gonna make you an offer you can't refuse..........lemme see........ $47.50 an you gotta drink MY beer.....and it ain't Black Label....BUT, you'll like it cause you never had any like it, it's GOOD beer, not like that water stuff ya been drinkin.
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steve(ill) wrote:
Thad, I don't know how ORIGINAL you want this to be........ I have a 1940s 6 inch lathe. It had a 1-1/4 inch wide leather belt on when I got it.. all tore up... I bought a flat fan belt for a car engine ( with the 7-8 small grooves) that was 1-1/4 wide and the right length and installed that instead... been on there 30 years and never needs adjustment !! |
Steve I have no problem doing that but this belt is probably 10’ long. I have a fan belt off of a 580 case backhoe running my lathe and it doesn’t slip.
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