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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote caledonian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 6:30pm
A Sherman tank would be handy in rush hour traffic.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KMAG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 5:10am
Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Why is it a crime to own a antique tank you cannot buy parts for or ammunition to use the weapons on?? Or even drive on motorways??
It becomes nothing more than a moving yard ornament.



USA - you may own a tank.

Parts are available if you have the $$$. Tool budget needs increase.

Still can shoot - need BATF Destructive Device Tax stamp ($200) for main gun and another tax stamp per machine gun.

Drive on motorways? Yes, with weight/width restrictions in some places. The biggie is using rubber padded tracks to avoid chewing up road surfaces.

T34s Russian tanks were selling for $30k in 1990s and light British stuff under $20k. USA Sherman M4a1 runs around $140k now.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KMAG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 5:00am
I suspect a chain of custody issue as to ownership of that tank was basis for seizing it as govt property. Most post-war Panther tanks went to scrapper or French army and then scrapper in 1950s. Most survivors were from eastern block, range targets, or saved by allies until put in museums.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 4:38am
Was in Germany in the 70s, stayed in Zimmerfrei or rooms to rent as toured the countryside, one farm we stayed at spoke thru a daughter to a German Farmer where discussed the TV(Gunsmoke in German language) and the photos of his deceased brothers on the shelf(in full NAZI regalia) two helmets and several medals in a frame alongside those photos.  He spoke calmly as to being led down a path by Hitler as the nation needed to work and the Great Depression had them starving.  He still had his 8mm Mauser service weapon complete with a Nazi emblem on the receiver.

It isn't the in home presentation of NAZI memorabilia or ownership of NAZI materials that is illegal, it is the use of those to instill a resurrection of the party.  Having that tank was not so much illegal as the Gov't did not want the underlying NAZI supporters to gain it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote klinemar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 8:30am
From the article I read the guy was a collector of Nazi memorabilia. With the tank being in his basement sounds like it would have been inoperable and the video showed German Army Tank Retreiver pulling the Panther with no tracks probably to move it easier. All said anything Nazi is illegal in Germany as the War did not go well under Nazi control once the world saw what happened!
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He must have a really big basement!LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 3:47am
Why is it a crime to own a antique tank you cannot buy parts for or ammunition to use the weapons on?? Or even drive on motorways??
It becomes nothing more than a moving yard ornament.
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Originally posted by HD6GTOM HD6GTOM wrote:

... He said Jewish people pay no taxes in Germany....


He may have said that, but it isn't true.
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Jewish people in Germany? You mean both of them? I remember when I was a kid, my grandfather went back to Germany to sit Shiva for a cousin who passed. They couldn't find enough people. They had both been imprisoned at treblinka
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HD6GTOM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2021 at 4:24pm
Was reading posts of the old German who had a ww2 tank and a whole lot of weapons and ammo in his basement. I dont want to be a rat fink, but my landlord had his complete ww2 outfit including rifle, gas mask, pistol, ammo and numerous uniforms stored above his shop. He proudly showed them to me on day. He told me numerous guys had their complete kits in storage ready incase they needed them when the russians came. He said Jewish people pay no taxes in Germany. He was an apartment building owner and he showed me the exorbitant property tax he paid. He was never married and was a butcher by trade.
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