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    Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 7:10am
too. I have never considered owning a newer AC and by newer I mean 7000 series and newer. Tell me why I shouldn't own a 7000 or 7010. I looked at one with 8500 hours and couldn't believe the tack; it looked almost new. It has a cab and I would want fenders. Are they available? It's just a new thought for me. Thanks, Dana
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 Hi Capt. We have a 7030 that does all we ask of it but I wish it were an 8010 or 8030 for the bigger cab. Gets crowded with the grandkids in there. Its on the round baler most of the summer...Harvey
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I had a 76 7000,and my buddy had one also. They were very good tractors with enough horsepower for their size. It compared very well with a 1070 Case at 108 hp, my 1855 Oliver at 119 hp, and would pull 6-16's in moderately heavy loam/clay mix. My friend ran his at 163 hp for several years and never had problems with the motor. However, he shelled the transmission and powershift section out 3-4 times. hmmmmm! wonder why? Like the XT190 they would handle 125 hp for ages. They are very manouverable for their size, and have all the modern conveniences, like live pto-hydraulics, good power steering,powershift, easy on fuel and if it has a cab with heat/air is comfortable.The only thing detrimental was getting in and out of the cab, and that wasn't bad, just that my 7060 was easier. I personally would say go for it!!
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iT'S A MAROON BELLEY SERIAL 1649. Looks like an early 76. Clean as a whistle but 8200 hours. I am guessing the motor had to have been gone through? Who knows! lol
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Well Capt, considering you probably won't be putting a lot of hours on it and that you have a couple other tractors that could take it's place if it did go south, I'd say go for it.  That is if it is reasonable and sounds and runs well.  Unlike your paying ride, if it quits, you can just climb off and walk away.  lol
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At that many hours, unless the owner treated the tractor like his first born kid, the engine probably has been overhauled or may be in need of one.  If the owner took care of the tractor by keeping up on oil, oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, and coolant changes (and supplements or coolant filter added), then it is possible for a turbo 301 to live a long life, as a few on here can probably vouch for, as I seem to remember a few people here having turbo 301s at 10,000 hours or more.  I have heard of some 185s back home that are around 12,000 hours on the original motors and get the snot worked out of them, but they are taken care of as far as maintenance goes. 

With that many hours, there may be a chance that the PTO clutch and powershift clutch packs are getting a little tired, as in the seals are getting a little dried out and don't seal so well.  See if when it is warmed up really well (it takes a while, usually a couple hours) if the PTO will kick out when you shift the powershift at low RPMs.  Mine does that sometimes, and I have gone through the entire valve pack and everything, so that only leaves the PTO and powershift clutch packs getting a little leaky.  Nothing to be really concerned with necessarily, just the tractor showing its age.  I'm not really familiar with the 7010 other than what I have learned about the 301 motor with my tractor, but I will say that I feel like the 7000 is a great balance for the 301 motor.  I feel like if I moved to any heavier of a tractor, the 301 may be a little on the small side, but then again, everyone who has a 7010 and 20 seems to love them, so I am probably wrong.  Hope this is of some help. 

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Captain, no reason in the world to not want a newer Allis as well as the older ones. I love em all. I try to make em all earn their keep, and have fun with them also. A friend of mine had a 7000, and he got over 10,000 hrs on it before it had any issues other than a starter, alternator, and batteries. Go for it! Darrel
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I went back today and looked her over again. I'm telling you it's the cleanest used tractor I've about seen. I swear the tack must have gone south and they replaced it with one from an old 7000 LOL!! Actually next week I will go and warm her up and try her out. Geez I can't let her slip away, can I? The hours sure don't show. Whoever cared for her sure did a heck of a job. I will get some pics too. The tires may be 70% all the way around. What now is she worth????? Oh...and for mowing and baling will I like her better than that 185 I was all set to get? Thanks y'all. Dana
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If you get this, you'll have to find you a 3240 woods 20 foot batwing to go behind it.  It's a combo that was meant to go together lol.  When you're looking at used tractors this old, I think there is a lot more to be said about how it was cared for than just how many hours the tach has on it.  Sounds like you've found yourself another nice Allis to add to the collection!  Get us some pictures when you go back, don't get to see too many pictures of 7000s on here...

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I spoke to the current owner and he said he bought from a farm out west whatever that means lol. There is only 200 miles between my farm and the Atlantic ovean! Anyhow I will be using a tractor such as this to mow and kicker bale hay. He said the tractor engine was completely overhauled 300 hours ago. The rest has simply been kept bout as perfect as could be in my opinion.
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We got a maroon belly 7000 with 7400hrs but the tac didnt work for a while so its prolly closer to 8000 hrs. My uncle bought it in the mid 80s, don't know the hrs but it had been overhauled. He isn't very good with maintenance so nothing works as far as air, heat, radio, or windshield wipers and couple windows are missing so it looks well used, but mechanically it is sound and dose absolutely everything we ask it to do. Still very solid and wouldn't call it wore out but looks worse than the condition actually is.
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Couple words of advice, for a baler tractor, the cab/AC is very, very much a "nice touch" esp since some of us aren't 25 any longer!  I no longer will run an open platform tractor on a baler or disc mower/conditioner.  
Here the 7020 really does not do anything we could not do with 90 pto hp, just does it ever so much easier and without strain.
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