AC dozer on Craigs list. What is it?

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   This dozer is advertised  locally but they don't mention the model. Can anyone tell from the pictures in the link?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/bfs/1420157214.html

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BruceWA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Kent WA Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote BruceWA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: AC dozer on Craigs list. What is it? Posted: 18 Oct 2009 at 8:44pm
	This dozer is advertised locally but they don't mention the model. Can anyone tell from the pictures in the link? http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/bfs/1420157214.html

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Dnoym N. S. Can. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Points: 544	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dnoym N. S. Can. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2009 at 8:57pm
	look to be a big one Allis Chalmers 6 way dozer my guess at 60 hp would be 61 hp; ALLIS-CHALMERS HD6 DOZER hth B:-) Dnoym

JoeO(CMO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2694	Post Options Post Reply Quote JoeO(CMO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2009 at 8:59pm
	looks like 653 on the decal, replaces the HD4, with improvements. I wish it were closer, I'm in the market for one to clean up on the farm.

BruceWA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Kent WA Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote BruceWA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2009 at 9:26pm
	Do they have wet or dry steering clutches and brakes? How much do they weigh?

Tracy Martin TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10629	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tracy Martin TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2009 at 9:31pm
	Dry brakes and clutches. Great little machine. That one has original UNI-Tool cage on it. Heavy blade also.Tracy Martin

Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41600	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2009 at 11:00pm
	653 was upgrade of the H4 and like the 655, still a industrial machine . As far as I know aboutthe same as the HD4 , does have winch and 6 way blade. Price isnt bad but would wonder as machine is older unit.
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BruceWA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Kent WA Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote BruceWA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 2009 at 1:14am
	Had a 500 IH years back. Very handy little machine to operate but the dry clutches and brakes would rust when you didn't use it and it seemed like they always needed some kind of adjustment. I got real good at pulling the brake drum and clutch out. Do these give the same type of trouble and can you pull the brake out from under the seat?

Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41600	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 2009 at 9:20am
	Not to bad to work on but no reason for the brakes or clutch to rust. Have a large cleanout hole in bottom of case 2" pipe plug. In 10 years had no clutch problems with the HD4 I had . Only problem is learning how to slide the drive axel into ring gear shaft without loosing it. Getting the clip to release , but with books it is easy .
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jrjuday Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: n.e. indiana Points: 119	Post Options Post Reply Quote jrjuday Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 2009 at 11:19am
	That is a great price if it is what he says it is. I paid more than that for my HD-4 10 years ago and the winch didn't work when I bought it. The HD-4 and 653 are basically the same machine save for a few more HP on the 653 and an improved undercarriage.....more links, pads, and the center guide roller is flipped around facing the inside, toward the machine. Parts are still available through MinnPar dealers or can be had on their site. Some stuff can be bought at Agco dealers too.....mostly just the engine components as it has the 200cid engine. Just the winch, if it works and needs no work, should be worth 1500 to 2000 alone. 60hp is more than enough power for a 6 ton machine and I have pushed and pulled a lot of stuff that I shouldn't have. Steering clutches are dry type and pretty straight forward. Having the radiator sit right in front of the operator is kinda strange but it is nice having it out of the way of debris. If you are close and have the money and the need for a small dozer you had better snatch it up. He is right on with his price. JJuday

AC dozer on Craigs list. What is it?

Allis Chalmers 6 way dozer