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R Aiken 
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 4:41pm |
I did it agin, bought another moline.
it is for parts. already have 5 of the R's
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GBACBFan
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 4:48pm |
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As long as it's the rare and highly collectible offset single wheel front model, I think everyone will understand.
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Bill Long
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 6:52pm |
I cannot fault anyone for restoring an antique tractor. Remember, they don't make them any more. If we don't care for our history it will dissapear.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Claus
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 6:56pm |
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Molines had a nice color, I remember years ago OAN had an article where an Allis caravan passed a Moline caravan, pretty cool.
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:00pm |
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Couple years ago at Amana. MM show east, AC show west.
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:06pm |
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You can do what I do after buying a off color, get one more AC. lol
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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.
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Ryan Renko
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:35pm |
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A buddy of mine bought a 1947 ZTU last winter. Being only a AC fan it was interesting to tear into it and get it running again!! The motor was alot different with the "jug" cylinder bores. What I really found weird was the spark plug location. AC talks about the "power crater" which makes sense to me, but the MM had the spark plug not even in the combustion area, it was off to the side!?!?. It was fun to work on and get running. It also had drum brakes just like a car, not the bad AC design. Ryan
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D-allis Iowa
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:02pm |
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must have been a lot of Molines in your area. There are very few here in NW Ia.
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DMiller
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:04pm |
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Cousin had a MM Diesel in the 70's, don't remember which model but a real horse.
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Brian S(NY)
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:19pm |
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when I was a kid I worked for a guy who had mm's aZ a U302 and a G670, I especiallly liked the 302 and would buy it today if the new owner would sell it. Brian S
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Ryan Renko
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:31pm |
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This ZTU I spoke about earlier also had a hand lever for the clutch and you could either use the seat or swing it out of the way and stand up to drive.
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Jack(Ky)
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 9:37pm |
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I restored one of those last year and they are interesting. I still have the side mower drive off of it and have been thinking of putting it on ebay.JP
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acwdwcman
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 9:50pm |
buddy of mine has a mm udlx
that is hard to find, and it is restored perfectly
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wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 10:11pm |
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Worked for a soybean seed dealer in late 80s that farmed with MM's that used LP.He had a tractor for each task,that tractor would stay hooked or atatched to that particular piece of equipt.1 on a corn cult,1 on bean cult.,1 on plow, 1on planter.He had about 30 tractors.He did have a few that did multiple jobs,but he thought it was a waste to hook up and un hook equipt.Also each tractor was just large enough to do task at hand.
He used LP because there was not a fuel tax on it at the time.LP can be very efficient in small engines, but the large tractors that did heavy field work gobbled it up.
Rotting soybeans and LP have a certain odor that is distinct and brings back a lot of bad memories
Always liked the MM's,Z's U's G1000 5 star or Jet Star.Hand clutch on smaller models made auger work much easier.Could work hand clutch from behind when connecting PTO's and wagons.OSHA would never let one fly today
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427435
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 11:44pm |
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I have fond memories of an R. It was the first tractor I was allowed to drive at about the age of 7 or 8 because it had a hand clutch I could engage and disengage.
A unique thing about that engine (and probably some other MM engines) was that you could replace the rod bearings (and maybe the crank bearings) without dropping the pan or splitting the tractor.
Edited by 427435 - 12 Dec 2010 at 11:47pm
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Mark
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Steve M
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Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 11:51am |
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Is that a 13.6 38 tire on there? I'm looking for one with the Goodyear style 45 degree tread. Thanks Steve
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Ryan Renko
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Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 6:47pm |
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The 1947 ZTU I worked on had roller bearings on the crankshaft.
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 10:12pm |
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The MM engine design is surprisingly similar to the STEARNS side-rocker, and the valves resided in a 'pocket' up above the top of the piston... made for a very compact combustion chamber... this got around the pitfalls of flathead engines, and also solved the valve-piston interferance issue. Unfortunately, the valves were very shrouded, so running 'em fast rapidly found the breathing limitations of the design.
The MM's BIG bonus, that many overlook... is an awesome road-gear... usually scary-fast.
But regardless of color, ALL old tractors are downright cool. I'll take one of everything, please!!!
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JohnCO
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Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 12:41am |
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I heard they advertised them to dealers as the only tractor you could work on while sitting on a chair (plugs and head). I've got a Z and a 670 Super diesel. Used to run a U when I was a kid. Would almost fall asleep because the tractor engine ran so slow. It was fun to drive back to the farm, did better then 30MPH.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 8:49am |
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I used one (Z)at our local show a few years back to finish pickin corn with my Wood Brothers. It had rained and the ground got too slick for the CA with no fluid or weights. I was concerned about the place you had to rest your feet while using the PTO but the tractor was easy to handle and was kinda fun to play with.
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smokey
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Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 8:51am |
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Richard, it must be OK to say you got a MM. on here, they are kinda a neat old horse, My Dad got one to look at, at this point I don't what he was thinking? but its tired 1955 UBspeical wide front, it needs a lot TLC and parts, and he got it fairly cheap I guess about 100 bushel of ear corn the guy needed the corn more than the tractor, kinda excited to see what becomes of it, Dad is very Orange I think he sleeps on WD hood LOL.
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 10:26am |
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MM's are OK, Richard. I've got 5 Twin City's in my shed, MM ancestors!
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427435
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Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 10:58am |
 Alberta Phil wrote:
MM's are OK, Richard. I've got 5 Twin City's in my shed, MM ancestors!
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Pictures please!!
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