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We welded gas tankers 99 percent of the time it was weld a patch over a dent/tear or weld crack.  The tanker was pressurized to 1 or 2 psi and with on of the tankers many fittings open to vent.  You never can get aluminum tank clean due to its more porous nature of its oxides compared to stainless or steel.  So we would let it purge for an hour of so and keep it purging while we worked on it.  This would take better than half of an liquid nitrogen tank for a full sized tankers.  For small tanks argon in a standard 110lbs would probably be better.     If it had separate sections/tanks we purged them all to ensure no explosion.  This was done in a 3 sided shed so there was no danger of suffocation. 


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I have welded several with using CO2 and even just stick the air hose in the opening and weld, but I dont think I will do any more. At 66 why push my luck. I would just get another tank. Fred
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Filled a tank with watewr right to the top and thought it was full since water was coming out of top corner leaking seam.  Put the torch to it and solder. Just as the solder melted, there was a woompf inside the tank and it buldged. ... and didn't leak anymore either.
 Another fellow had brazed up a diesel fuel tank on an old army 6X6 and  just as he closed the hole shut, it expanded. was funny to see a nice square tank with steps on the driver side and on the passenger side the tank was rounded with steps in it.
  Then there was a guy that welded lots of tanks and he would put a hose into the tank blowing air from a vacuum cleaner. had one tank blow up in all the years was when the hose fell out and he didn't notice it. 
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What is the cost of purging a 300 gallon tank with Argon? What is the cost of a new 300 gallon tank? JB weld cost 6 bucks. ($12 perhaps if you need to re-repair it in a year or two)

Just my $.02

Brian
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Before you use an epoxy, check the chemical resistant chart for the epoxy.
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Originally posted by roughstock roughstock wrote:

What is the cost of purging a 300 gallon tank with Argon? What is the cost of a new 300 gallon tank? JB weld cost 6 bucks. ($12 perhaps if you need to re-repair it in a year or two)

Just my $.02

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How much does 10 or 20 gallons, maybe even the whole tank full of fuel cost when the JB weld does fail.  Rental of an argon tank and a plate of steel is realitively cheap even in comparison to the cost of a new tank. 
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Originally posted by firebrick43 firebrick43 wrote:

Originally posted by roughstock roughstock wrote:

What is the cost of purging a 300 gallon tank with Argon? What is the cost of a new 300 gallon tank? JB weld cost 6 bucks. ($12 perhaps if you need to re-repair it in a year or two)

Just my $.02

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How much does 10 or 20 gallons, maybe even the whole tank full of fuel cost when the JB weld does fail.  Rental of an argon tank and a plate of steel is realitively cheap even in comparison to the cost of a new tank. 


Touche..... I didn't consider that. lol

Brian
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Just go to the auto parts store and buy fiberglass fuel tank repair K I T. even comes with a piece of sandpaper. I repaired a big tractor fuel tank over 30 years ago with one. Still holding when I last saw the tractor five years ago. Inexpensive and no explosion.
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