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WELDINGWIZARD
Bronze Level Joined: 02 Mar 2024 Location: Michigan Points: 6 |
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Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 10:11pm |
Hello, I am somewhat new to WD tractors and just purchased a WD45 wide front with a Kelly loader that was ran low on rear end fluid, upon pulling the rear end cover I discovered that the bearing on the pinion was completely failed. Does the WD share trans/rear end fluid and will I need to worry about the rest of the bearings in the trans? Shifts into all gears fine but doesn’t mean the bearings aren’t damaged. Thank you. Only payed 500 dollars for the tractor so I can buy a used rear end/trans if that’s the best option. I also am in need of service manuals and feel the IT Manual is not a good option being that is covers 36 different models not just specific.. open to suggestions for manuals or even online locations for download.
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 51663 |
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Bearing damage is evident. But the gears don't look terrible... I'd put a new bearing in and set up the rear real careful...
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20485 |
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Better see if you can even purchase the bearing you know you need before going any further. Not the first time I've seen this. Leaking tractor on a dirt floor shed and no one EVER checks the chassis oil level because it takes a wrench to do so.
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Mikez
Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8384 |
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Dr would the bearing he needs 223308. Shows still available through agco
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WELDINGWIZARD
Bronze Level Joined: 02 Mar 2024 Location: Michigan Points: 6 |
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I can’t find anything through the AGCO website for 223308, is there another place I should be looking? I’m gonna pull the shifter tower off today and inspect the trans assembly today- thanks for the reply
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20485 |
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That's the one needed. Next thing would be disassemble the transmission and see if that bearing bore has spread apart and cracked the case. If it has, plowing and discing days are over. Parades and light work will be fine. All other bearings at least should be removed and washed out with solvent and air dried to get all the schrapnel cleaned out of them or replace with new. Don't change ANY shims or you might have a howler in road gear.
Edited by DrAllis - 03 Mar 2024 at 7:43am |
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7332 |
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On the AGCO website, add 70 to the beginning of the number sequence. In this case: 70223308.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8106 |
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I believe Id just find a good rear end and swap it out- should be plenty out there
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WELDINGWIZARD
Bronze Level Joined: 02 Mar 2024 Location: Michigan Points: 6 |
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UPDATE: pulled the shifter tower off today and every thing appears to be good in the transmission and bearings in the the hand clutch/ transmission housing wall appear to be in good shape, housing does not appear to be cracked, looking like I can split it and do a bearing replacement, possibly pinion shaft and carrier bearings, but looking better than expected. Next step is splitting the thing and getting deeper into my inspection - thanks for the helpful replies. Any tricks or things to keep in mind when splitting it?
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WELDINGWIZARD
Bronze Level Joined: 02 Mar 2024 Location: Michigan Points: 6 |
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Doug, does 200.00 for a complete trans and rear end including all the planetaries and what not seem too far out of line?
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Ed (Ont)
Orange Level Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: New Lowell, Ont Points: 1290 |
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Sounds reasonable to me.
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Mikez
Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8384 |
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That bearing alone from agco is more then that.
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20485 |
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Never forget, you can buy a complete rear end for sure. BUT, it may be in worse shape than fixing this one. What I see of the shifting dogs, this looks like a pretty good tranny and may have a decent shifter on it too. I'm jus saying..........
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groundhog55
Silver Level Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Location: nw in Points: 217 |
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Don't know if your still looking, but I have a complete pinion shaft with good bearing. Also the ring gear still attached to the diff . Would take 100.00 for that.
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WELDINGWIZARD
Bronze Level Joined: 02 Mar 2024 Location: Michigan Points: 6 |
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Sent you a private message groundhog55
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ryanmcfowler
Bronze Level Joined: 22 Mar 2024 Location: 03903 Points: 1 |
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It is a big job to get into the transmission, currently rebuilding the transmission on my WD45.
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