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Posted: 21 Apr 2023 at 12:24pm |
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According to my 50 year old hand held meter , the dwell is 34 at idle and 32 wide open . Rpm is 800 idle and 1800 WOT . Runs good , so I'm guessing this is ok ? Any thoughts ? Thanks !
Edited by ACinSC - 02 May 2023 at 1:27pm
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DrAllis
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Posted: 21 Apr 2023 at 1:02pm |
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Wide open throttle is to be 2,200 RPM on a D-15.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2023 at 1:41pm |
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Okay, sounds like something ain't quite right? Plan B . Thanks Dr Allis
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Posted: 21 Apr 2023 at 10:20pm |
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On the right side of the engine, there is a stop bolt that the governor spring lever hits when at the wide open position. Remove this bolt and adjust linkage to gain RPM's at the full throttle position. The governor spring lever can only rotate CCW so far and it will hit the vertical governor cross arm. That is the maximum RPM you can achieve with that spring. A new spring/plunger assembly is usually stiffer than an old one and will increase RPM's.
Edited by DrAllis - 22 Apr 2023 at 6:43am
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Posted: 22 Apr 2023 at 6:45am |
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Thanks Dr Allis . I noticed this gov lever had a good bit of wiggle . Took it off and cleaned it up and found it had been brazed . Guess it broke years ago , before I bought it . Someone also wrapped teflon tape around the vertical nipple it goes on . Guess it's worn and needs a bushing ? Don't see one on the Agco site . Says new arm comes with bushing . Should say this Governor lever arm is #70234113 . Thanks again !
Edited by ACinSC - 22 Apr 2023 at 6:48am
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Posted: 24 Apr 2023 at 2:35pm |
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Have a #70234113 governor lever arm on the way . Nice to be able to get parts for my 60 year old tractor . When it arrives I'll install it and go from there . Would like to get the RPM up to 2,200 . Thanks !
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Posted: 24 Apr 2023 at 2:38pm |
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New governor spring/plunger would be good.
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Posted: 24 Apr 2023 at 4:42pm |
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Is that the short spring with the metal piece inside? Thanks!
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Posted: 24 Apr 2023 at 5:22pm |
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YES. That spring controls your speed and especially top speed.
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Posted: 24 Apr 2023 at 6:20pm |
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Okay thanks Dr Allis. I'll see if I can get them.
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 1:34pm |
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Test run today with new #70234113 governor lever arm . WOT is still 1,800 rpm . Idle rpm is down from 800 to 600 . Plan to replace the #7022316 plunger and spring and re-test . Thanks !
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 2:10pm |
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Did you remove the stop bolt and readjust the linkage so it cranks the lever all the way around ?????????????
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 3:21pm |
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Stop bolt doesn't touch this new lever arm unless I hold throttle lever all the way down . Thanks DR Allis !
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 3:40pm |
if you disconnect the carburetor rod on the left side of the tractor where it attaches to the governor cross arm.... will the throttle go to wide open and touch the Stop ?
make sure that cross arm is not dragging on the thermostat housing or hose when at WIDE open.
Edited by steve(ill) - 02 May 2023 at 3:44pm
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 3:53pm |
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I told you to remove the stop bolt and then adjust the linkage so the governor spring lever is rotated as far as it can go !! That's how you increase RPM's
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 4:24pm |
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No Steve , makes no difference with carb rod off . Thanks !
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 4:26pm |
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I'm not understanding , Dr Allis . Adjust/bend the linkage behind the rad , or something else ? Thanks !
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 4:59pm |
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Step #1. Remove the governor spring lever stop bolt and throw it away. Step #2. Remove the right side panel under the fuel tank. Step #3. Find the throttle rod that activates the governor spring arm. Loosen the setscrew and adjust this rod so it is LONGER. Make it long enough to make that governor spring arm swing around as far as it can go, with the hand throttle still going clear DOWN horizontal. Recheck and make sure you can still reach slow idle speed.
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 5:53pm |
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Got it! Thanks Dr Allis. I'll see how it goes tomorrow. Thanks again!
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Posted: 03 May 2023 at 11:25am |
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Lengthened throttle rod about 1/2" , just about to the very end of rod . WOT is up from 1800 to 1900 . Pulled gov arm back by hand and that's as far as it goes . Gonna see if I can borrow another meter , maybe mine's not reading right ? THANKS !!
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Posted: 03 May 2023 at 12:22pm |
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what stops the arm from moving further ?? Or are you saying its hitting Internal ?
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Posted: 03 May 2023 at 12:50pm |
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The governor spring arm can only swing so far and it hits the governor cross arm that goes in front of the engine. That's as far as it can go. I often times put a twist in the end of the gov spring arm to get a little more RPM out of it and a new spring usually helps s little too. I question the accuracy of his RPM meter.
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Posted: 03 May 2023 at 1:11pm |
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Not sure what's hitting Steve, but it's sure far as it'll go. Have a line on another meter and I'll retest. Thanks
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Posted: 03 May 2023 at 3:08pm |
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Dr Allis is right ! Gov arm hits the linkage behind the rad and that's far as it will go . Wonder if a new plunger and spring would increase the RPM ? Thanks !!
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Posted: 09 May 2023 at 11:13am |
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Installed new #70223516 spring/plunger today . WOT is now right at 2,220 rpm . Guess my old spring was weak and not opening the governor enough ? Idle is still 600 rpm . THANKS DR Allis and Steve !!
Edited by ACinSC - 09 May 2023 at 12:45pm
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Posted: 14 May 2024 at 11:28am |
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Here's the old post I was talking about Madcow.
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