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wjohn 
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 Topic: D-19 Loader - Front Wheels/Tires
Posted: 14 Jul 2022 at 11:13pm |
Someone put front wheels from something else on the front of my D-19. They're 18" instead of 16" and it looks like they had to torch the wheel centers to fit over the hubs.
I'd like to put correct 16" wheels and tires back on it, unless I'm really better off with the 18" for higher load rating for loader use. I would need new tubes and one new tire if I were to try to reuse the 18" rims, so not much cost difference from getting the correct 16" stuff.
The loader is an IH 2000 and has approximately a 2000 lbs. lift capacity. Carlisle 6.50-16s have a 1250 lbs. load rating, so 2500 lbs. total between the pair for the weight of the front of the tractor and loader plus the load. Might be a little light. If they have enough clearance, Carlisle 7.50-16 tires have a 1710 lbs. rating which would give me 3420 lbs. as well. Anyone with a D-19 or similar model with a loader have any insight? Wish you had something different for front tires, or what has worked for you?
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DMiller
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Posted: 15 Jul 2022 at 4:16am |
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My 180 being a less rated tractor uses 9.5L 15’s where I have a 500 loader on it.
They squat when put a load on the loader but still manage for short distance operations, would not want to carry a 5x6 or 6x6 round bale more than a few yards but can still do it pretty well.
Even as loader is rated 2000lb keeping it under for the most part will keep from tearing it up.
16” wheels and rubber should be relatively easy to come up with.
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Lon(MN)
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Posted: 15 Jul 2022 at 7:19am |
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I have a set of original rims if you are interested.
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 15 Jul 2022 at 9:06am |
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9.5LX15's would be a good choice. I'm sure many loader tractors exceed the rating of the tires on a regular basis. I picked up a pallet of beans with the 6080 this spring that it barely lifted off the trailer. Drove it very slowly straight into the shed and set it down. It has 10.00X16's and a Westendorf TA 28 loader. Think the beans were about 3500 lbs.
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DSeries4
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Posted: 15 Jul 2022 at 11:05am |
Unverferth sells new rims. They have heavier ones for loader tractors - I would definitely recommend that. They look the same as lighter duty rims, but much stronger. A lot of people have trouble with rims cracking and braking. They don't realize that it probably originated from a wagon or other piece of light duty equipment. For tires, I used 7.50 x 16 on my 175 for 30 years and never had any problems - just keep them properly inflated.
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Posted: 15 Jul 2022 at 3:02pm |
i just bought a pair of these for our CASE 530 hoe... I figured the front end plus the loader weight about 2500 pounds or more and i wanted to pickup an additional 2500 pounds...... These are 14 ply and i could NOT get them on the rims by hand... Had to take to the FS tire store to have them install..
Personally i would not buy a tire with a 1700 pound rating.. That must be a 4 or 6 ply tire.... You should be looking at at least a 10 ply.
Edited by steve(ill) - 15 Jul 2022 at 3:13pm
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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wjohn
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Posted: 15 Jul 2022 at 9:55pm |
 DMiller wrote:
Even as loader is rated 2000lb keeping it under for the most part will keep from tearing it up. |
The loader structure itself is actually rated for at least 3000 lbs. depending on what tractor you put it on, so I'm not too worried. It's the pump that's the limiting factor in my case. Figured I should be able to handle a 2000 lbs. load regardless. Thanks for sharing the 9.5L-15 feedback.
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wjohn
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Posted: 15 Jul 2022 at 10:11pm |
So, maybe the other logical question to ask is how wide of a front tire can you put on a 16" front rim on a D-19? The Carlisle chart is here: http://www.carlislebrandtires.com/our-products/product-detail/farm-specialist-f2/
I'm wondering if I can stick with the stock 16" rims by going up to a 7.50-16 SL F2 (8 ply) which gives a 1710 lbs. rating, not much less than the 9.5L-15 SL 8 ply which is 1870 lbs. I think I'd feel pretty good about being rated for 3420 lbs. under the front end as long as there's enough clearance.
Does everyone feel that the stock D-19 front rims (not implement rims) were strong enough (thanks Lon - in case I go that route)?
Steve, those tires look solid, but I think I'm going to need tri ribs on this. Not sure how well that tread pattern would do especially for any field work.
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Posted: 17 Jul 2022 at 10:21pm |
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Find some rims off a D19. They will have the heavy centers. 7.50 x 16 tried ribs have been used on loader tractors for years. If you can find Firestones. They always were worth a little more money than other brands. Whatever you get. Let them sit for 3-4 months and let them get hardened up.
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