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Dave in il 
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 7:22pm |
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Some of you know I have a health issue and I'm currently relearning how to walk. That said, I have sold my farm equipment and I'm considering what to do with my collection. My current conundrum is what to do with my 1975 200 with a 500 Allis loader. It looks rough but runs good, the hydraulics and power steering work as they should but the power director is out and the engine clutch is weak. It can move itself but can be stopped by an ant hill if the ant was particularly industrious. Lol! For the past several years it's been used to load and unload in the yard only with the idea that "when we had time" it would come in the shop to be fixed and painted. Well obviously I'm not going to be pulling a pd any time soon. I don't think it's worth hiring it done. So do I call salvage yards for offers, put it on EBay, or offer it in the classifieds here? Considering the loader and the motor alone I was thinking like $3500 is that realistic?
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 7:44pm |
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Dave in il
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 8:10pm |
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I'm waiting for pictures since I can't walk around it. My guy gets off work and it's dark and has family stuff most week ends so it's been awhile since I asked
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 9:07pm |
Dave, you may want to consider an online auction as another option. It seems everything is selling well on them at this time. Sorry to hear of your problems.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 9:11pm |
Your amount sounds realistic. Advertise locally and see what happens. Good luck. 
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 7:36am |
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Man I'd love to pick up a 200 with loader for 3500, and in IL! Not sure where in IL you are though. Looks like you've generated enough interest right here to get it sold at a fair price, to both you and a buyer. Good luck in healing! Looks like you're just south of streator. The down side is my trailers won't be on the road now until spring and the salt is rinsed down. I could however mail payment if we agreed to a deal.
Edited by injpumpEd - 03 Jan 2022 at 7:39am
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 9:17am |
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Ed you surely got a buddy with a trailer.
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 3:13pm |
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Oh I've got 2 goosenecks, but they don't go in the salt lol!
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 3:20pm |
Ed.......... your about close enough to DRIVE it home !! 
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 5:14pm |
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Sure, if it has a cab with heat! I'm a lover of the great indoors! lol!
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Dave in il
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 7:00pm |
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Guys I hope to have pictures this weekend thanks, Dave
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 9:23pm |
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Just keep it. Things could change and then you might have regrets in letting it go. Just saying. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 9:33pm |
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I was thinking like Stan. Unless you really need some cash (and it isn't a life changing #) just keep it. Who knows what the future holds?
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 9:34pm |
 injpumpEd wrote:
Oh I've got 2 goosenecks, but they don't go in the salt lol! |
Hire a roll-off.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 9:41pm |
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Im in agreement with Stan, it isn't costing anything in the shed and could be a "therapy" project when the time comes, dont rush and make a hasty decision, old tractors don't cost much in the corner of the shed
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Posted: 04 Jan 2022 at 7:18am |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
injpumpEd wrote:
Oh I've got 2 goosenecks, but they don't go in the salt lol! |
Hire a roll-off. |
Great idea! My son in law has several roll back tow trucks! This is too close to home for me to not get. Text me pics if easier Dave. 815-303-3492.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 04 Jan 2022 at 9:29am |
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Well with that scenario you have no excuse for not "moving" it if Dave does sell.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2022 at 9:33am |
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Get well!
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Dave in il
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Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 2:07pm |
I finally have pictures The door is gone, the back glass is too. The front tire is my spare and we're keeping it it will come with the wheel and tire that came off it but the tire is shot I have the grill somewhere but it's damaged and kept falling off, since it never left the yard we never tried fixing it The cab leans to the left a little, thats because while mowing a road ditch it slid sideways down a bank and ended up on its right side. I'm still here so it did it's job and i swear the wrecker operator did more damage than the roll over lol. there is no center link It has 18.4 34 bias ply tires at a bout 50% no cracks or damage still has decent tread The interior was gone when I bought it the seat has been broke and fixed the cushions are decent
I didn't take the pictures. I tried to describe it as well I as could, but keep in mind it's been months since I have seen let alone operated this tractor. We put batteries in it this summer but if it's not run for more than a couple days. The loader frame was broken near one of the uprights and the repair was done very well.
Well what do you think?
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Dave in il
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Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 2:12pm |
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I should have said the batteries run down when the tractor isn't run every couple days.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 2:19pm |
Hi Dave, All these options sound good, with the exception of scrapping it. #1 get to feeling better and good luck!
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Posted: 04 Oct 2022 at 2:36pm |
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ok, I was able to get over and save this poor tractor, sn 4758, so cost reduced 200. I am thinking the PD issue is a hyd issue, not so much a PD clutch issue, yet. It acts as it's just doing the usual creep in N, L or H. It will move under it's own power, but stops easily with the brakes, and pto keeps going. It's a 2 speed mechanical pto. I stuck a gauge in one of the 2 small ports on the PD valve, and it showed 0 psi, no matter lever position. I now have a pressure gauge on the tee ahead of brake pedals. Start it and run about 1600 rpm it has 150 psi, no matter the lever position also. The spool moves in and out, but you can feel a spring resistance at each end of travel. At no point does the gauge show the 60 psi neutral spec. Parts books shows the 4001 sn and up having a revised pd valve. Is this a common problem? This tractor did get laid over on it's side, so I suspected linkage issues. Thanks for any input in advance! One other thing I noticed, is while it's running, it sounds like the hydraulics are buzzing more than should be at the front oil cooler, which is the same circuit as the pd & steering. The cooler is not bolted down to hood though, but it just sounds like something is dead heading and going into relief.
Edited by injpumpEd - 04 Oct 2022 at 2:44pm
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Posted: 04 Oct 2022 at 4:17pm |
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Ed, when I started reading this post, I was thinking linkage to the pd as soon as I read the part about having been laid over, and cab leaning. My one ninety gasser came with a saggy cab/operator platform, due to lack of axle supports being put on when the cab went on. And pd slipped. After getting everything back up where it belonged, pd is tight again. Been several years ago now, still working
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 04 Oct 2022 at 4:44pm |
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I can watch the pd valve go in and out, not sure it's all the way either direction, but at some point it should have a neutral, and the gauge should drop to about 50psi. Of course, my only manual is an I&T and it doesn't technically cover the later 200's that I can see. It just says 190/200. This is why I'm asking here, haven't gotten a manwell yet lol!
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Posted: 05 Oct 2022 at 7:33am |
Hope your health is improving Dave. Best wishes to you!
Congrats Ed, You've got the next Allis I'd love to have. I was reading the post and wondering why you were worried about taking out trailers in October, that I saw the post started last January.  Glad you got it and enjoy your 200!
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Posted: 05 Oct 2022 at 7:49am |
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Yea, probably should have started a new thread, this one's title doesn't describe my issues lol! But there was already lots of information in it. Dave looked good and seemed like he was improving as he hoped. Really great guy and his friends that helped me are fantastic as well.
Edited by injpumpEd - 05 Oct 2022 at 7:50am
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